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Hokusai san
2008-11-22 13:27:03

Bai fratilor, ce mai ninge afara, o venit iarna bre!

Bai ce mai ninge, ce frumos ninge, s-o pus zapada bre!

Liviu2002j
2008-11-22 13:32:33

Emigristule ...

La 2008-11-22 11:06:36, emigrstul a scris:

> dupa umila mea parere respectul fata de celalalt ,om fata de om popor
> fata de popor.
>
Ce respect zici ca au avut amerecanii fata de vietnamiezii aia ramasi pe plantatiilede orez pe care s-au nascut, atunci cand le-a dat cu napalm ?! Dar fata de irakienii aia de care si-au batut joc in fel si chip prin inchisori ?! Versiunea coreenilor ai auzit-o ?! Chiar si japonezii cum crezi ca stau cu bazele amerecane si cu militaurii care le cam violeaza fetele ? Asa din respect "popor fata de popor" !!!

Ce vorbe mari in limbajul de fier democratic arunci tu acilea "corect din punct de vedere politic" ... Numai ca vezi tu, daca tu ai reusit performanta sa-ti speli singurel creierasul si sa crezi in diverse baliverne "minimizand" cele ce ti-am scris mai sus, unii nu accepta si nu pot fi atatde usor aburiti ... Chestiune de rezistenta si de caracter !!!

Hokusai san
2008-11-22 13:45:53

Re: Articol cu adevaruri. La noi ultimul timp numai vesti rele se / Trebuie sa raminem optimisti

orice s-ar intimpla in jurul nostru!


La 2008-11-22 12:01:54, Atamild a scris:

> La 2008-11-22 09:35:51, roy a scris:
>
> > Este frig si esti cam trista,
> > Stergetzi nasul in batista.
> >
> > Uite a iesit cu rima.
> >
> > La 2008-11-22 09:01:01, Atamild a scris: ERATA! 22 noembrie 2008!
> >
> > > Oamenii devin tristi si pesimisti si daca in 2008 am intrat cu
> > > bucurie, in 2009 intru cu melancolie. O melancolie abuziva, ca o
> > > stare depresiva. 22 noembrie 2008? Aici ninge anul acesta pentru
> > > prima data, la noi pe strada. Alte vesti nu mai am, ca atare.. cititi
> > > din ziare. Si daca mai exista, asteptam vesti proaspete si bune din..
> > > viitorul apropiat. Hm! nu a rimat,
> > > Matilda
> > >
> >
> >
> Da, ai dreptate, poate mi-e teama de viitor. Da, nu vreau sa-i
> arat:-)
> Am ramas in trecut, cum trece timpul, lunile, anul, secundele si nu le
> mai vad din
> cauza evenimentelor ce vor urma,
> Matilda
>

Hokusai san
2008-11-22 13:47:55

Trebuie sa raminem intotdeauna optimisti, orice s-ar intimpla in jurul nostru, chiar de ar fi

Sfirsitul Lumii in jurul nostru!!!

Hokusai san
2008-11-22 13:51:27

Re: Romani nu votati ciolanistii comunisti si securisti! / Subscriu.

La 2008-11-22 02:54:01, ionescu a scris:

> De fapt, toate Partidele mint de doua ori:
> . Si cand au spus ca n-au fost la guvernare, din 1989 incoace, pentru
> a nu-si asuma dezastrul ce sta sa izbucneasca,
> . Si cand arunca pe toti stalpii promisiuni desprinse din planul
> cincinal de pe vremea comunistului Ion Iliescu.
> Romanilor trebuie sa le fi ajuns cate minciuni li se indeasa pe toate
> antenele, prin toate orasele PE CARE LE VIZITEAZA oamenii rosii.
>
> Tot ce trebuie sa faca fiecare roman care merge la vot peste o
> saptamana este sa-si aduca aminte ca oamenii rosii care le cer acum
> votul sunt cei pe vremea carora au dus-o foarte prost. Sa se uite
> intai la candidat si mai apoi la partid. Sa nu uite ca majoritatea
> candidatilor sunt exponentii cei mai de seama ai criptocomunistilor
> si ai securistilor care ne sfideaza in fiecare zi"
>
> Morala:
>
> "ROMANI NU MAi VOTATI CU CIOLANISTII, securisti si comunisti!"
>

simiondan
2008-11-22 14:08:10

Re: Trebuie sa raminem intotdeauna optimisti, orice s-ar intimpla in jurul nostru, chiar de ar fi

da huhule! ca tot e uikend, uite-o melodie superba!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxjPHcAOEr8


La 2008-11-22 13:47:55, Hokusai san a scris:

> Sfirsitul Lumii in jurul nostru!!!
>

cercetas
2008-11-22 14:14:44

Trebuie sa raminem intotdeauna chinezi, orice s-ar intimpla in jurul nostru? HAIDA DE!!!

Deabea ti-am traznit IDul cu Huo Itzic si iar te-ai infipt p-aci?

La 2008-11-22 13:47:55, Hokusai san a scris:

> Sfirsitul Lumii in jurul nostru!!!
>

cercetas
2008-11-22 14:18:37

NU NINGE BAI !!! Arunca lumea pe fereastra actiunile, rupte in bucatele mici

Arunca lumea pe fereastra actiunile, rupte in bucatele mici, pai daca e fraieri ce sa-i faci?

La 2008-11-22 13:27:03, Hokusai san a scris ca fraierul: Bai fratilor, ce mai ninge afara, o venit iarna bre!

> Bai ce mai ninge, ce frumos ninge, s-o pus zapada bre!
>

simiondan
2008-11-22 14:21:55

Re: NU NINGE BAI !!! Arunca lumea pe fereastra actiunile, rupte in bucatele mici

ha ha ha, buna asta!


La 2008-11-22 14:18:37, cercetas a scris:

> Arunca lumea pe fereastra actiunile, rupte in bucatele mici, pai daca
> e fraieri ce sa-i faci?
>
> La 2008-11-22 13:27:03, Hokusai san a scris ca fraierul: Bai fratilor,
> ce mai ninge afara, o venit iarna bre!
>
> > Bai ce mai ninge, ce frumos ninge, s-o pus zapada bre!
> >
>
>

Hokusai san
2008-11-22 14:27:08

Re: Trebuie sa raminem intotdeauna optimisti, orice s-ar intimpla in jurul nostru, chiar / Mersi

La 2008-11-22 14:08:10, simiondan a scris:

> da huhule! ca tot e uikend, uite-o melodie superba!
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxjPHcAOEr8
>
>
> La 2008-11-22 13:47:55, Hokusai san a scris:
>
> > Sfirsitul Lumii in jurul nostru!!!
> >
>
>

cercetas
2008-11-22 14:29:33

ALO ALO HOKUSPOKUS SAN !!! Frumos nume v-ati pictat, sa nu va fie de deochi!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/36_Views_of_Mount_Fuji_(Hokusai)

Si acum mi-am adus aminte, si imi dau seama ca am gresit (dar nu puteam sti!) caci Hi Ciu Tzi nu a fost intentionat rau, caci nu era anagrama.
Ati spus ca donati tablouri....
Hokusai....
IMI CER IERTARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cercetas
2008-11-22 14:43:42

Domnului pictor Katsushika Hokusai

cadou pt sufletul dvs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJrDFKaM-Mk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYH7DHeTywo&feature=related

cercetas
2008-11-22 14:52:04

GATA, DECLAR RAZBOI !!! Ce ziar de doua parale este asta????????????????

In mai toate forumurile serioase tot omu poate sa-si puna o poza asociata la ID, iar la cele avansate poate sa insereze o mica imagine in text, sau icoane de alea mici comice ca la yahoo sau msn (in messenger).
De ce Ziua nu poate, e din secolul trecut?
De ce Ziua nu poate, nu are web master?
RUSINEEEEEEE !!!!!!!

cercetas
2008-11-22 14:53:37

incerc sa-mi deletez mesajul si nu pot, ce porcarie e asta?

La 2008-11-22 14:14:44, cercetas a scris: Trebuie sa raminem intotdeauna chinezi, orice s-ar intimpla in jurul nostru? HAIDA DE!!!

> Deabea ti-am traznit IDul cu Huo Itzic si iar te-ai infipt p-aci?
>
> La 2008-11-22 13:47:55, Hokusai san a scris:
>
> > Sfirsitul Lumii in jurul nostru!!!
> >
>
>

cercetas
2008-11-22 14:58:38

Re: Trebuie sa raminem intotdeauna optimisti, orice s-ar intimpla in jurul nostru, chiar / Mersi

Ukiyo-e (pronounced oo-kee-oh-ay) was a popular form of printed art in Japan during the Edo period, inexpensive and usually depicting scenes from everyday life.

Ukiyo translates as "the floating world" - an ironic wordplay on the Buddhist name for the earthly plane, "the sorrowful world". Ukiyo was the name given to the lifestyle in Japan's urban centers of this period - the fashions, the entertainments, and the pleasures of the flesh. Ukiyo-e is the art documenting this era.

Ukiyo-e is especially known for its exceptional woodblock prints. After Japan opened trade with the West after 1867, these prints became very well-known and influential in Europea, especially in France. Japonisme influenced such artists as Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, Edgar Degas, Vincent van Gogh, Whistler and the graphic artists known as Les Nabis.

The founder of the Ukiyo-e school was the 17th-century artist Hishikawa Moronobu. Among the many famous artists who followed were Ando Hiroshige, Hokusai Katsukika, Kitagawa Utamaro and Toshusai Sharaku.


La 2008-11-22 14:27:08, Hokusai san a scris:

> La 2008-11-22 14:08:10, simiondan a scris:
>
> > da huhule! ca tot e uikend, uite-o melodie superba!
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxjPHcAOEr8
> >
> >
> > La 2008-11-22 13:47:55, Hokusai san a scris:
> >
> > > Sfirsitul Lumii in jurul nostru!!!
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Evreu-rus
2008-11-22 15:03:23

Roy, te voi dezamagi. Rusia va trece cu brio testul supravietuirii crizei financiare

La 2008-11-22 09:28:48, roy a scris:

> Chestia este ca nu conteaza ce crede boborul, conteaza ce se intampla
> in mod real. Bursa rusa s-a dus dracului, daca ai bagat acolo 100 de
> mii de dolari in urma cu 6 luni, ai acum 10 mii.
>
> Rubla a ramas la acelasi nivel fatza de dolar, dar asta a costat
> visteria rusa 57 de miliarde de dolari si au ajuns la fundul pungii,
> deci urmeaza DEVALORIZAREA.

> Last but not least: Barilul a scazut de la 147$ la aproape 47$. Asta e
> o lovitura nimicitoare. Adica rusii primesc 30% din cat primeau
> inainte.

Intr-un discurs tinut pe 20 noiembrie, prim-ministrul Vladimir Putin a anuntat masurile pe care le va lua ptr a combate efectele crizei financiare asupra economiei rusesti. Dumnealui a asigurat poprul rus ca Rusia nu va mai trece prin colapsurile economice din trecut.
Prin urmare, guvernul rus va aloca 50 de miliarde de ruble (aprox. 2 miliarde de dolari) pentru a salva sectorul economic de faliment, dar si pentru a oferi o solutie pe termen lung pentru pietele financiare rusesti, ce au scazut cu mai mult de 70% din luna mai.
Rusia va oferi deasemenea unor exonomii emergente ca China si India imprumuturi pentru a le facilita achizitionarea de echipament rusesc, ptr a crea crea slujbe noi, si pentru a asigura profitul companiilor rusesti. In acelasi timp, taxa pe profit va scadea cu 4% pana la 1 ianuarie 2009, pentru ca banii astfel obtinuti sa ramana in economie, mai degraba decat sa intre in bugetul federal. Eforturile dlui Putin se vor indrepta si catre masrirea ajutorului de somaj si catre garantarea unei proportii mai mari a depozitelor populatiei.
Rezervele de aur si de valuta ale Rusiei (situate pe locul trei la nivel mondial, 581,1 miliarde $), cat si fondurile stranse dupa ce ani la rand pretul petrolului a fost foarte mare, sunt un motiv in plus pentru a da incredere in sansele economiei rusesti de a supravietui crizei, pentru ca ofera posibilitatea de a stapani inflatia si de a sustine moneda nationala.
Naspa este ca Rusia se va confrunta pentru prima oara cu un deficit bugetar, dar el va fi acoperit prin tranferul de lichiditati din fondurile special alcatuite ptr zile negre, si nu din imprumuturi.

Hokusai san
2008-11-22 15:13:29

Re: Suprematia valorilor adevarate / Carol Z.:...

La 2008-11-21 23:22:50, carol zwilling1 a scris:

> La 2008-11-21 23:18:39, Eufrosin a scris:
>
> Noapte buna! Te-am inteles!Iesti de admirat.........
>
>
> > La 2008-11-21 23:10:07, carol zwilling1 a scris:
> >
> > > Fara evrei inteligentule, nu ar fi ajuns America la aceasta
> > > suprematie....
> > > Poate doar daca veneau Romanii....................
> > >
> >
> > Stiu ca nu-i asa.
> >
> > Imaginati-va America, fara evrei:
> >
> > 1. Pasnica si buna
> >
> > 2. Economia puternica, banul adevarat, bazat pe aur si argint, care in
> > prezent, nu mai sunt la Ft. Knox.
> >
> > 3. Iubita in jurul lumii, inclusiv de lumea araba
> >
> > 4. Sigura, datorita lipsei spionilor evrei care rup tot ce pot de pe
> > ea.
> >
> > 5. Libera - in lipsa atentatelor oribile comise de mossad in SUA,
> > libertatea a fost sufocata, pana la disparitia ei completa.
> >
> > 7. Cetateni informati si alerti, nu adormiti si propagandizati de
> > media evreiasca.
> >
> > 8. Crestina si virtuoasa, nu iudeo-crestina si innecata in pornografie
> > si perversitati .
> >
> > Pot dovedi tot ce-am spus, iar lista e departe de-a se fi
> > incheiat.
> >
> >
> > > La 2008-11-21 23:05:05, Eufrosin a scris:
> > >
> > > > O America lipsita de influenta nefasta a neoconservatorilor
> > > > evrei infipti in pozitiile cheie din guvern, finante si invatamant,
> > > > ar fi fost o America a carei suprematie in lume ar fi durat inca mult
> > > > si bine.
> > > >
> > > > Adevarata suprematie nu se masoara in numarul tarilor distruse
> > > > si a resurselor jefuite, ci in pacea, libertatea, stabilitatea si
> > > > bunastarea pe care o tara crestina, bine inarmata dar pasnica, le
> > > > poate promova prin exemplu propriu, lumii intregi.
> > > >
> >
>
>

Hokusai san
2008-11-22 15:19:59

Re: Suprematia valorilor adevarate / Carol Z.: ''...Te-am inteles! Iesti de admirat...'' Pentru ca

sa-l opreasca pe Eufrosin sa insiruie adevaruri si dovezi incomode pentru evrei a reactionat in modul ultraviclean, MANIPULATIV, DE MAI SUS!

Carol zwilling1, cu mai multe nickuri, e de o VICLENIE FANTASTICA, INSPAIMINTATOARE!!!



La 2008-11-21 23:22:50, carol zwilling1 a scris:

> La 2008-11-21 23:18:39, Eufrosin a scris:
>
> Noapte buna! Te-am inteles!Iesti de admirat.........
>
>
> > La 2008-11-21 23:10:07, carol zwilling1 a scris:
> >
> > > Fara evrei inteligentule, nu ar fi ajuns America la aceasta
> > > suprematie....
> > > Poate doar daca veneau Romanii....................
> > >
> >
> > Stiu ca nu-i asa.
> >
> > Imaginati-va America, fara evrei:
> >
> > 1. Pasnica si buna
> >
> > 2. Economia puternica, banul adevarat, bazat pe aur si argint, care in
> > prezent, nu mai sunt la Ft. Knox.
> >
> > 3. Iubita in jurul lumii, inclusiv de lumea araba
> >
> > 4. Sigura, datorita lipsei spionilor evrei care rup tot ce pot de pe
> > ea.
> >
> > 5. Libera - in lipsa atentatelor oribile comise de mossad in SUA,
> > libertatea a fost sufocata, pana la disparitia ei completa.
> >
> > 7. Cetateni informati si alerti, nu adormiti si propagandizati de
> > media evreiasca.
> >
> > 8. Crestina si virtuoasa, nu iudeo-crestina si innecata in pornografie
> > si perversitati .
> >
> > Pot dovedi tot ce-am spus, iar lista e departe de-a se fi
> > incheiat.
> >
> >
> > > La 2008-11-21 23:05:05, Eufrosin a scris:
> > >
> > > > O America lipsita de influenta nefasta a neoconservatorilor
> > > > evrei infipti in pozitiile cheie din guvern, finante si invatamant,
> > > > ar fi fost o America a carei suprematie in lume ar fi durat inca mult
> > > > si bine.
> > > >
> > > > Adevarata suprematie nu se masoara in numarul tarilor distruse
> > > > si a resurselor jefuite, ci in pacea, libertatea, stabilitatea si
> > > > bunastarea pe care o tara crestina, bine inarmata dar pasnica, le
> > > > poate promova prin exemplu propriu, lumii intregi.
> > > >
> >
>
>

Hokusai san
2008-11-22 15:31:10

Cercetas are mai multe nickuri, e evreul platit sa faca discreditarea celor incomozi evreilor, pe

forumuri!

Are si nickurile Petre S., Logofatul de taina...

Roxana
2008-11-22 15:38:52

Re: GATA, DECLAR RAZBOI !!!/ doriti sa va puneti poza ?

La 2008-11-22 14:52:04, cercetas a scris:

> In mai toate forumurile serioase tot omu poate sa-si puna o poza
> asociata la ID, iar la cele avansate poate sa insereze o mica imagine
> in text, sau icoane de alea mici comice ca la yahoo sau msn (in
> messenger).
> De ce Ziua nu poate, e din secolul trecut?
> De ce Ziua nu poate, nu are web master?
> RUSINEEEEEEE !!!!!!!


De ce este necesar o icoana comica ?
Va avem pe dvs.

muresanu
2008-11-22 15:39:19

Sfarsitul Lumii.

E atat e simplu. Esti dat afara.
Ti se gata banii de salariu,sau,pensie!
Ce te faci?
Te-mprumuti! Si de-acolo,ajungi sigur, in Post-sfarsitul Lumii.
Ca sa fim seriosi. Politica USA fatza de datorii financiare, familiale, e absolut criminala.
Omul,n-are bani.L-a dat firma afara. Vine Fiscul,ii ia casa. In ultima vreme,chiar
ma intrebam,de unde atatia boschetari? Este absolut INUMAN!
Aici,poti sa fii in incapacitate de plata. Dar,casa o ai. Ce Democratie?
Sinuciderea cu dormitul pe strazi? Majoritatea sunt oameni care au avut slujbe
bune! N-au vrut in Canada pro-europeana,sau in Mexicul criminal.Acasa.
SUA, e numai pentru cei care au bani. Altii, n-au ce cauta acolo.

Roxana
2008-11-22 15:41:18

Re: ALO ALO HOKUSPOKUS SAN !!! Frumos nume v-ati pictat, sa nu va fie de deochi!

La 2008-11-22 14:29:33, cercetas a scris:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/36_Views_of_Mount_Fuji_(Hokusai)
>
> Si acum mi-am adus aminte, si imi dau seama ca am gresit (dar nu
> puteam sti!) caci Hi Ciu Tzi nu a fost intentionat rau, caci nu era
> anagrama.
> Ati spus ca donati tablouri....
> Hokusai....
> IMI CER IERTARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

Dupa ce l-ati reclamat pe chinez
va faceti autocritica ?

dorinP
2008-11-22 15:45:40

Re: Cat valoreaza aceste previziuni?

Las-o balta. A ajuns la 147$ deci nu departe de profetie. Oricum a fost mult mai realist decit optimistii care sustineau contrariu


La 2008-11-21 23:52:49, roy a scris:

> S-ar putea ca previziunile sa se implineasca si s-ar putea si nu...
>
> UIe ce articol a aparut in urma cu jumatate de an in Ziua" "The
> prophet oil" predicts $ 200 per barrel
>
> "Profetul" prevedea asta in foarte putzin timp timp chiar cateva
> luni!
> http://www.ziua.ro/display.php?data=2008-05-26&id=237821
>
> La previziuni e bine sa te uitzi inapoi sa vezi daca s-au indeplinit
> si nu inainte.
>
>

cercetas
2008-11-22 16:04:47

Da de unde! Sunt si eu un artist vampir, am inceput cu Van Gogh dar au dat vina pe el

Da de unde! Sunt si eu un biet vampir cu inclinatii spre arta, imi iau priza la pictori, si am inceput cu Van Gogh dar au dat vina pe dansul, era ma nu mai fie apreciat.

La 2008-11-22 15:31:10, Hokusai san a scris: Cercetas are mai multe nickuri, e evreul platit sa faca discreditarea celor incomozi evreilor, pe

> forumuri!
>
> Are si nickurile Petre S., Logofatul de taina...
>

cercetas
2008-11-22 16:07:13

Re: GATA, DECLAR RAZBOI !!!/ doriti sa va puneti poza ?

Da, dar unele care rad sau fac cu ochiul sau se inrosesc de furie, subliniaza mai bine mesajul

La 2008-11-22 15:38:52, Roxana a scris:

> La 2008-11-22 14:52:04, cercetas a scris:
>
> > In mai toate forumurile serioase tot omu poate sa-si puna o poza
> > asociata la ID, iar la cele avansate poate sa insereze o mica imagine
> > in text, sau icoane de alea mici comice ca la yahoo sau msn (in
> > messenger).
> > De ce Ziua nu poate, e din secolul trecut?
> > De ce Ziua nu poate, nu are web master?
> > RUSINEEEEEEE !!!!!!!
>
>
> De ce este necesar o icoana comica ?
> Va avem pe dvs.
>
>

gili
2008-11-22 16:11:37

Re: Sfarsitul Lumii.

La 2008-11-22 15:39:19, muresanu a scris:
.Acasa ...SUA, e numai pentru cei care au bani. Altii, n-au ce cauta acolo.
>
Asa o fi , da totusi sunt multi , n'asa ?

Europeanul mioritic
2008-11-22 16:18:00

Din lac in put

Dupa trei razboaie mondiale, doua calde si unul rece si dupa razboiul "impotriva terorismului" iata ca a venit vremea sa ne luptam cu un inamic mult mai abstract: Previziunile Analistilor pentru urmatoarele doua decade.

Dar unde au fost analistii astia pe vremea cand se cocea Marea Gogoasa Imobiliara Americana ?

Pinkie
2008-11-22 16:28:56

Sa prindem 2025 si om vedea ...

Europeanul
2008-11-22 16:30:27

Re: acesti ``SPY-gurus`` s-au cam grabit sa-si dea raportul la tiparit ...

La 2008-11-21 23:49:37, Seherezada a scris:

> cred ca a fost conceput cam pe la mijlocul lui Sept. sa fie gata
> pentru data de 30 Octombrie spre a fi silabisit in fatza unei
> audiente selecte ...
>
> Intre timp, toate tzarile care urmau sa inlocuiasca USA la intiietate
> ...
> au intrat intr-o recesie galopanta ...

Pai in faza asta a globalizarii interdependeta este mare... We all are going up, we all are going down! Dar iata ca viitorul nu este chiar asa de negru, economia SUA se va reface in urmatorii 2 ani or so,

http://www.mediafax.ro/externe/barack-obama-intentioneaza-sa-creeze-2-5-milioane-de-locuri-de-munca-in-doi-ani.html?3614;3537738

> Se pare ca acum acest McConnell si colegul Hayden, amindoi Chief
> Spies, in administratia Bush, si-au oferit serviciile si lui Obama,

mda, ca sa vezi, spy (tradatori?) mama lor de spy... de parca Obama ar lucra pentru rusi. Wake up !

cercetas
2008-11-22 16:37:09

Re: Sa prindem 2025 si om vedea ... pana in 2025 vin extraterestii si totul se rezolva

Pinkie
2008-11-22 16:43:06

Re: pana in 2025 vin extraterestii si totul se rezolva

Eufrosin
2008-11-22 16:46:51

Re: Sfarsitul Lumii.

Nu-s multi cu bani adevarati, raportat la totalul populatiei.
Sunt multi fraieri insa, care cred in sistemul capitalist de finanta, rapace, nemilor si obscen. Muresanu are dreptate, desi putea sa mai adauge multe inca.
De orasele de corturi care au aparut prin parcari, ai auzit?

La 2008-11-22 16:11:37, gili a scris:

> Asa o fi , da totusi sunt multi , n'asa ?
>

E atat e simplu. Esti dat afara.
Ti se gata banii de salariu,sau,pensie!
Ce te faci?
Te-mprumuti! Si de-acolo,ajungi sigur, in Post-sfarsitul Lumii.
Ca sa fim seriosi. Politica USA fatza de datorii financiare, familiale, e absolut criminala.
Omul,n-are bani.L-a dat firma afara. Vine Fiscul,ii ia casa. In ultima vreme,chiar
ma intrebam,de unde atatia boschetari? Este absolut INUMAN!
Aici,poti sa fii in incapacitate de plata. Dar,casa o ai. Ce Democratie?
Sinuciderea cu dormitul pe strazi? Majoritatea sunt oameni care au avut slujbe
bune! N-au vrut in Canada pro-europeana,sau in Mexicul criminal.Acasa.
SUA, e numai pentru cei care au bani. Altii, n-au ce cauta acolo.

muresanu
2008-11-22 16:52:21

jerry o'connel

Am o idee. Pe langa Goenlanda,dam si Antarctica pe mana Innuitilor.O vreau colonizata cu Innuits!

muresanu
2008-11-22 16:57:08

purici

Comentar.

Marius Adrian Porojnicu
2008-11-22 17:18:08

Re: Viitor luminos

La 2008-11-21 22:48:26, marin2 a scris:

> Deci ce va aduce bun China, India si Rusia?

........................
Un razboi ,de ex ? Bun pentru unii: depinde de unde privesti lucrurile....

Probabil USA isi pierd din
> capacitate datorita schimbarilor radicale de etnie, practic,
> sudamericanii, negrii si alte etnii vor deveni majoritare. La fel cum
> imperiul roman a primit pacific popoare barbare pe teritorul sau, in
> cateva secole s-a schimbat compozitia etnica si culturala in vaste
> zone. Cine crede ca toate etniile sunt la fel de eficiente se
> inseala, evolutia nu-i ceva logic, deci nu intentiona sa-i faca pe
> toti la fel.
>

Pinkie
2008-11-22 17:43:24

Re: Nu ai pe cine sa votezi, niste bishnitzari !

In strainatate nu numai ca e plin de bishnitzari :

http://www.franta-romania.com/node/6392

dar 80 % din romani nici nu vor putea vota, ei cer sa voteze numai rezidenti nu ca ultimele dati cand dadeai o declaratie la Ambasada cum ca locuiesti acolo si nu vei vota in alta parte, studentii si multi din zona gri NU VOR PUTEA VOTA.

Pesedeaua are nevoie doar de banii romanilor de afara, nu si de votul lor ! :-)))

Asha ca stai linistit , poate doar daca'i impuscati scapati de ei !


La 2008-11-22 02:54:01, ionescu a scris:

> De fapt, toate Partidele mint de doua ori:

Adrian v.D.
2008-11-22 17:59:26

Lumea nu poate fi statica....

din moment ce totul este intr-o desfasurare dinamica,intr-o continua miscare,de aceea si marile surprize ale ultimilor 20 de ani:caderea comunismului,destramarea urss-ului,o UE si un NATO pana la Prut,desteptarea Chinei,marea criza de azi.Cine ar fi crezut aceste evenimente istorice acum 20 de ani?Nu cred ca UE ramane inca 20 de ani dependenta de resursele Rusiei.Crede cineva ca in urmatorii 20 de ani va mai vorbi cineva de criza actuala,sau despre hidrocarburi?!Daca va fi asa,inseamna ca UE(dar si Japonia si USA)isi vor merita soarta de importatori de....poluare.
Toate prognozele pe termen mediu si lung nu s-au implinit.E ca si cu prognoza vremii pe cateva luni.Mai <sinceri>mi se par cei care sustin(ca si cand totul ar fi ireversibil!) ca intr-o suta de ani,nivelul marilor si oceanelor va creste cu 4-5m.Verificati si singuri!

roy
2008-11-22 17:59:46

Re: Con brio, ma non tropo

Ha, ha, ha...

Putin a alocat 2 miliarde de dolari... O pasa cat de darnic esti! Asta nu e nici cat jumatate de aspirina Bayer din cat ii trebuie Rusiei.

Putin o sa trebuie sa mai puna de o suta de ori pe atat si nu o sa fie de ajuns. Deocamdata a pus 57 de miliarde de dolari ca sa sustzina rubla si tot nu a ajuns.

Dar tot e frumos ca recunoaste ca Rusia e in criza, si ca numeroase firme sunt falimentare. Somajul a crescut de la 5.3 la 6.1% intr-o luna, bai! (Reuters: http://www.cnbc.com/id/27836494

Mai mult de 700 de mii de oameni au ramas someri intr-o singura luna! Important este ca sunt fericitzi si ca cred in pastilele lui Putin de 2 miliarde de dolari!!!

Lasa-te bai de goange, Rusia este in plina hemoragie! E cazul sa deschidetzi bisericile sa-si faca lumea cruce si sa se roage lui Doamne, Doamne.

A, da... cand treci pe langa una, nu uita... fa-tzi si tu cruce... poate ajuta.


La 2008-11-22 15:03:23, Evreu-rus a scris:

> La 2008-11-22 09:28:48, roy a scris:
>
> > Chestia este ca nu conteaza ce crede boborul, conteaza ce se intampla
> > in mod real. Bursa rusa s-a dus dracului, daca ai bagat acolo 100 de
> > mii de dolari in urma cu 6 luni, ai acum 10 mii.
> >
> > Rubla a ramas la acelasi nivel fatza de dolar, dar asta a costat
> > visteria rusa 57 de miliarde de dolari si au ajuns la fundul pungii,
> > deci urmeaza DEVALORIZAREA.
>
> > Last but not least: Barilul a scazut de la 147$ la aproape 47$. Asta e
> > o lovitura nimicitoare. Adica rusii primesc 30% din cat primeau
> > inainte.
>
> Intr-un discurs tinut pe 20 noiembrie, prim-ministrul Vladimir Putin a
> anuntat masurile pe care le va lua ptr a combate efectele crizei
> financiare asupra economiei rusesti. Dumnealui a asigurat poprul rus
> ca Rusia nu va mai trece prin colapsurile economice din trecut.
> Prin urmare, guvernul rus va aloca 50 de miliarde de ruble (aprox. 2
> miliarde de dolari) pentru a salva sectorul economic de faliment, dar
> si pentru a oferi o solutie pe termen lung pentru pietele financiare
> rusesti, ce au scazut cu mai mult de 70% din luna mai.
> Rusia va oferi deasemenea unor exonomii emergente ca China si India
> imprumuturi pentru a le facilita achizitionarea de echipament rusesc,
> ptr a crea crea slujbe noi, si pentru a asigura profitul companiilor
> rusesti. In acelasi timp, taxa pe profit va scadea cu 4% pana la 1
> ianuarie 2009, pentru ca banii astfel obtinuti sa ramana in economie,
> mai degraba decat sa intre in bugetul federal. Eforturile dlui Putin
> se vor indrepta si catre masrirea ajutorului de somaj si catre
> garantarea unei proportii mai mari a depozitelor populatiei.
> Rezervele de aur si de valuta ale Rusiei (situate pe locul trei la
> nivel mondial, 581,1 miliarde $), cat si fondurile stranse dupa ce
> ani la rand pretul petrolului a fost foarte mare, sunt un motiv in
> plus pentru a da incredere in sansele economiei rusesti de a
> supravietui crizei, pentru ca ofera posibilitatea de a stapani
> inflatia si de a sustine moneda nationala.
> Naspa este ca Rusia se va confrunta pentru prima oara cu un deficit
> bugetar, dar el va fi acoperit prin tranferul de lichiditati din
> fondurile special alcatuite ptr zile negre, si nu din imprumuturi.
>

roy
2008-11-22 18:08:37

Re: Con brio, ma non tropo

Uite Ahmed o poza dragutza (ce frumos arata ei directzia numai ca ar trebui sa-si indrepte manutza in jos) si un titlu care spune totul.

>

roy
2008-11-22 18:15:56

Re: Con brio, ma non tropo

Nu mai sunt bani, Shalva nu lucreaza:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=Russian+economy

gili
2008-11-22 18:18:16

Frosinele , ai putintica rabdare , nu ma lua iute ca... caz pe spate ...

Cum vine aia , ma rog , cu alte cuvinte daca esti bun ... " Sunt multi fraieri insa, care cred in sistemul capitalist de finanta, rapace, nemilor si obscen." ?...
Adica nu ca as fi in freza dupa sistemul asta capitalist de zici , da care sa fie ala mai bun daca nu-ti este cu suparare ?!

roy
2008-11-22 18:30:05

Rusky celaviek: Rezervele Rusiei au scazut cu 130 miliarde de dolari in 3 luni. Soc!

Pe vremuri, cantau romanii:
Ce te uitzi in cur, ce te uitzi in cur, ce te uitzi in curtea mea,
Parca tu n-ai cur, parca tu n-ai cur, parca tu n-ai curtea ta?

Vad ca tu citesti numai despre America. Uite totusi un articol care sa te aduca cu picioarele pe pamant in curtea ta. Rusia e in soc, bezmeticule!!! Rezervele Rusiei au scazut cu un sfert in 3 luni: 130 de miliarde de dolari. Asta e hemoragie curata!!! Si Putin face programe de doua miliarde de dolari? Ce e beat?

Russia\'s Economy: How Bad Will It Get?
By Jason Bush, Business Week


The slowdown in Russia is part of the global epidemic, but after years of heady growth, the suddenness of the reversal has come as a shock
By Jason Bush, Business Week

There\'s no denying it any longer. Russia\'s long economic boom is finally over.

On Nov. 18 the World Bank became the latest organization to slash its forecast for Russia\'s gross domestic product growth next year, from 6.5% to just 3%. That came on the heels of the International Monetary Fund, which has also been scaling back its Russian GDP growth forecasts, most recently from 5.5% to 3.5%. Many experts are even gloomier, with some predicting that Russia\'s economy could actually go into recession next year.

\"I see no way you can achieve 3% growth next year,\" says Anders Aslund, senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington. \"We are seeing a rapid deterioration in everything: the banking system, real estate, construction, the metallurgical sector&#8212;and, of course, the oil price.\"

Drastic Turn of Events
Although part of a global phenomenon, the slowdown in Russia is especially sudden and shocking. It comes after years of momentous economic growth, averaging 7% since the beginning of the decade. As recently as the first half of this year, Russia\'s economy grew by 7.8% from the previous year. And until recently most ordinary Russians seemed oblivious (BusinessWeek.com, 10/24/08) to the deteriorating economic news.

Yet the severe impact of the global crisis on Russia\'s financial markets is becoming increasingly apparent. The banking sector is in turmoil, while the stock market has been among the worst affected in the world, losing 75% of its value in the past six months. The ruble has lost 17% of its value against the U.S. dollar since August.

Even so, the true extent of Russia\'s economic problems is only now being acknowledged at an official level. \"Today it is clear that the crisis is spreading, unfortunately from the financial sector into the sectors of the real economy,\" Russian President Dmitry Medvedev admitted on Nov. 18.

A Daunting Scale
In sector after sector, corporate announcements about job losses, pay cuts, and production cutbacks show that the scale of the economic crunch is far more serious than most people had previously understood. On Nov. 19 Russian carmaker GAZ (GAZA.RTS) revealed it was introducing a three-day week, in response to slumping demand for vehicles. A day earlier, leading steelmaker Severstal (CHMF.RTS) announced it had slashed production by 50% since the summer and was deferring most of its $8 billion investment program for the next three years.

Just a few days before that, leading agricultural producer Razgulyay (GRAZ.RTS) announced it was sacking 2,200 members of its staff and cutting its investment by $190 million next year. \"The situation is grim, and getting grimmer,\" says Chris Weafer, chief strategist at Russian bank Uralsib (USBN.RTS). \"Until now, most people didn\'t think it would have an impact on their lives. Now the reality is beginning to dawn on them.\"

According to Russia\'s labor ministry, as of Nov. 13 some 3,079 Russian companies had announced plans for job losses, totaling 99,000. That\'s more than double the number of job losses announced just two weeks before. Companies in Moscow also are cutting employee pay, by anywhere from 1.5% to 10%, according to Moscow city officials.

The cutbacks spell even more gloom for consumers and businesses, which are already reeling from the dearth of credit. Bank lending has practically ceased. In frank comments to foreign investors in Moscow on Nov. 18, Joerg Bongartz, the chairman of Deutsche Bank Russia (DB), spelled out the scale of Russia\'s banking woes. \"We have a completely dysfunctional [interbank] market: There is no confidence, no transparency, and a lack of liquidity,\" he said. \"Borrowing is a very expensive pleasure, if it is at all possible.\"

Falling Car Sales
Nothing indicates the impact of the credit squeeze more dramatically than the car market. Just a few months ago analysts and investors were celebrating phenomenal growth in car sales (BusinessWeek.com, 7/11/08), which were up by over 40% in the first half of the year. But sales have fallen for the past three months, with a decline of around 14% now forecast for next year, according to the Association of European Businesses in Moscow.

The sudden slowdown wasn\'t totally unforeseen, of course. Even during the boom years, it was obvious to everybody that Russia\'s growth was fragile. With energy and metals accounting for some 80% of the country\'s export revenues, any major decline in commodities prices was bound to take a heavy toll. As the global economy heads into recession, commodity prices have indeed tumbled dramatically. The price of oil, now near $50 a barrel, has plunged by almost two-thirds since July. Almost as serious for Russia has been a big collapse in metals: Steel prices have halved over the same period.

What few people could have predicted was that the commodity price collapse would coincide with a total closure of international financial markets. Even before the latest declines in commodities, many of Russia\'s top companies were already broke, unable to refinance maturing international loans without massive assistance from the government.

Many had hoped that Russia would be able to weather the global storm, thanks to the strong financial position of the Russian government. The state has used the years of high oil prices to build up an impressive war chest of rainy-day reserves. At their peak earlier this year, Russia\'s foreign exchange reserves were worth some $590 billion. They are still worth around $460 billion&#8212;equivalent to a quarter of GDP.

Devaluing the Ruble
But as the gap between the figures shows, Russia has been hemorrhaging these reserves at an incredible rate. Foreign reserves have already shrunk by $130 billion since the beginning of August, indicating massive flight from rubles into dollars.

In an effort to absorb some of the mounting pressure on the ruble, the Russian Central Bank announced a widening of the currency\'s trading band on Nov. 12, in effect devaluing it by 1%. But that announcement caused dismay among many economists, leading to further calamitous falls in the Russian stock market.

The fear is that if the Central Bank falters in its defense of the ruble, there could now be a full-scale run on the banks and the currency. \"There is increasing uncertainty,\" says Natalia Orlova, chief economist at Russia\'s Alfa Bank. \"Confidence will remain very weak, because all the rubles injected into the banks will gradually be converted into dollars.\"

Restul articolului la:
http://www.businessweek.com/print/globalbiz/content/nov2008/gb20081119_658448.htm

roy
2008-11-22 18:37:55

Pentru Ahmed: Asa merge propaganda in Mama Russia

Russia: Crisis? What Crisis?

State-controlled TV in Russia is playing down the global financial mess even as its impact starts to spread through the economy

By Galina Stolyarova

There is a mantra these days, repeated diligently by Russian television: "The Russian authorities have taken all necessary measures to ensure that the global financial crisis does not produce a strong negative effect on the social situation in our country," or "The situation is under control."

The word "crisis" is scarcely used and only to concede that, yes, a crisis is unfolding, but this is happening very far from Russia, so the viewer mustn't worry.

All reports that do touch on the negative consequences of the global banking slump come from abroad. Russian television tells viewers about impoverished Britons unable to bury their dead relatives because the government no longer provides subsidies for that purpose, or about the American businessman, driven mad by the loss of his managerial job, who shoots his entire family and himself. But nothing is said about the clerks of Russian banks living in constant fear of being laid off, or about young families no longer able to keep up with their mortgage payments. Nothing at all is being reported from the regions, and there is no ground-level view of the situation. Only the Kremlin-cabinet view is aired.

It is an open secret that television in Russia &#8211; heavily filtered and as unchallenging as possible &#8211; is used to manipulate the public or to provide some kind of mass psychotherapy when officials feel it is required.

Journalists working for the state-controlled media admit in Internet forums that whole lists of words and expressions have been banned for use on Russian television, including "panic," "plummeting shares and markets," "market collapse," "market meltdown," "the bottom has dropped out of the market," and "record plunge." Euphemisms like "decrease" are used instead.

No wonder, then, that 20 percent of Russians polled in mid-October by the National Agency for Financial Research said they think the global financial problems will have only positive consequences for Russia. A further 40 percent said they are convinced that there will be no negative impact on Russia.

From watching Russian television, you could easily get the impression that most ordinary people have not been affected. A 10-minute street poll, however, suggests otherwise. While the reports remain positive, the effects are starting to show, and as more people share the bad news, anxiety is spreading. One person told me he had withdrawn his savings from a Western bank. "I felt my money would be safer at home," he said. "I don't have very much, but I don't want to lose it."

Some Russian viewers complain that the mainstream media are no help in getting a clear picture.

"What I find really insulting is that Russian television only broadcasts soothing 'everything's going to be fine' speeches by officials, which are completely irrelevant to our everyday concerns," said Marina, 35, a St. Petersburg resident and the owner of a small printing business. "My clients are cutting their budgets, and I'm getting fewer and fewer orders because I usually print advertising material. I need to decide whether I should close my business or carry on, but it's difficult for me to get a true picture of how the crisis is unfolding and affecting Russia. Why am I being treated like a brainless moron?"

Another participant of the street poll said she had traveled to Norway last weekend, where her MasterCard and Visa, both issued by a St. Petersburg bank, were repeatedly declined, causing her to end up owing hundreds of euros in cash. "I was lucky I was traveling with other people who could lend me the money. It was very stressful. I couldn't use my cards to pay in restaurants or in the hotel where I was staying, and on some occasions I wasn't even able to take money out," she recalled. " 'Your bank does not approve this transaction' was the standard reply, but there hadn't been any warning from the bank."

A survey conducted this week by the Internet portal www.superjob.ru found that 10 percent of Russian employers have already made staff cuts, while another 10 percent are preparing to make them soon.

Most cuts have occurred in banking, consulting, construction, and development companies. In the meantime, the price of oil has dropped below $70 a barrel, a critical level for the Russian economy, and the government looks set to start using its stabilization fund. It is considering earmarking at least $200 billion for a rescue of Russia's ailing banking system.

The move would be sure to infuriate ordinary Russians, who regard bankers as "speculators." With 63 percent of the Russian people earning less than 15,000 rubles (430 euros) per month and 30 percent getting just 5,000 to 6,000 rubles per month, the use of the stabilization fund for a banking rescue plan is bound to be unpopular.

Naturally, it has not yet reached the stage when tens of thousands of Russians besiege their banks, become desperate to save their kopeks or stare in disbelief at empty shelves in food stores. But has any official wondered what is going to happen when a critical mass of the population becomes genuinely concerned?

Here is one example. In May, panic gripped many residents in St. Petersburg after rumors spread of a serious accident at the nuclear power station in Sosnovy Bor, 70 kilometers west of the city. The station operates four Chernobyl-type reactors and has a history of minor accidents.

Thousands of people stormed local pharmacies, emptying shelves of iodine, while teachers in kindergartens and nurses in some hospitals closed all the windows in fear. Internet forums teemed with "eyewitness" accounts of the first victims of radiation poisoning arriving at hospitals and of a radioactive cloud moving toward the city at speed.

The authorities were quick to appear on all TV channels with reassuring statements denouncing what they labeled "provocation," "hooliganism," and "information terrorism." Yet the panic continued the next day, until it finally died out naturally as nobody experienced symptoms of radiation poisoning.

In the end, the leak scare proved to be a false alarm. In an extremely rare case of agreement between environmental groups and officials, the station's managers and independent ecologists said the rumors were false. The incident, however, served as a litmus test for the public trust in the words of the authorities and the mainstream media that readily transmit them. And it was not the authorities who stopped the panic. The bureaucrats had to wait for its natural end.

It became painfully obvious that even when officials speak the truth, the Russian people have been told too many lies to take government promises seriously.

After all, hadn't all Russians been promised in 1998, as the ruble continued to lose value and prices for Russian exports plummeted, that the state was definitely not going to default on its debts?

Indeed, keeping people in the dark about the real scale of the financial crisis is not worth the effort. However they choose to describe it, a crisis is in the air, and is being increasingly felt in Russia from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok. And as so often before, the Russian people are resorting to their own devices, without waiting to hear what officials have to say. They have long since learned the meaning of the expression "sink or swim." As the Russian proverb puts it, saving a drowning man is that man's own problem. They would appreciate it, however, if their ability to understand and assess a situation were more highly regarded by their governors, at least to the same extent as in other countries that have already been severely hit. When panic sets in, nobody is going to listen.

Galin Stolyarova is a writer for The St. Petersburg Times, an English-language newspaper.

Eufrosin
2008-11-22 18:41:24

Gilica, nu cadea pe spate ...

Sistemul ideal este monarhia. In lipsa ei, putem face eforturi inspre a avea un guvern mic, incoruptibil si frugal dar respectat, cu atributii bine definite, a carui misiune sa fie asigurarea ordinii sociale si a pacii, apararea granitelor tarii, livrarea postei si intretinerea drumurilor.

Intr-un astfel de sistem, micul intreprinzator ar inflori natural, deoarece el ar fi incurajat prin tot felul de mijloace, iar companiile mici ar fi protejate de practicile samavolnice ale mega-corporatiilor, prin lege.

Cu alte cuvinte, ar fi imposibil pentru WalMart sa deschida un supermagazin la marginea orasului, vanzand in pierdere pasta de dinti si papetarie, pana pune in faliment micutza drogherie si papetarie ai caror proprietari sunt in oras de generatii, ca mai apoi sa ridice pretzurile, iar politicienii sa se laude ca au "creat" 200 de servicii care platesc $5/ora. (aici pare mult, dar dincolo, este salariul minim pe economie).

Deci un adevarat mic capitalism, nu unul de finanta.


La 2008-11-22 18:18:16, gili a scris:

> Cum vine aia , ma rog , cu alte cuvinte daca esti bun ... " Sunt
> multi fraieri insa, care cred in sistemul capitalist de finanta,
> rapace, nemilor si obscen." ?...
> Adica nu ca as fi in freza dupa sistemul asta capitalist de zici
> , da care sa fie ala mai bun daca nu-ti este cu suparare ?!
>

Eufrosin
2008-11-22 18:43:25

Re: Con brio, ma non tropo

Iata cum si dracii graiesc adevarul, in ciuda vointei lor!


La 2008-11-22 17:59:46, roy a scris:


> A, da... cand treci pe langa una, nu uita... fa-tzi si tu cruce...
> poate ajuta.
>

roy
2008-11-22 18:43:38

Re: Pentru Ahmed: Asa merge propaganda in Mama Russia

Ahmed, sfatul meu SINCER:

In loc sa ne flashnetezi cu cat de catastrofica e situatzia in America si ce bine e in Rusia, documenteaza-te un pic despre ce se intampla in curtea ta.

Nu lipsesc materiale pe Internet. Nu mai exista doar Scanteia (si ziarul opozitziei "Romania Libera (sic!), nu mai exista doar Pravda si Trud.

Please Ahmed, please!!!

cercetas
2008-11-22 19:32:39

Re: Pentru Ahmed: Asa merge propaganda in Mama Russia

Cei mai multi americani or sa emigreze in Rusia, deoarece acolo e bine si libertate, dar problema lui Putin este cum sa-i impiedice sa vina ca sa nu-i inghesuie pe rusii-rusi care n-au unde sa plece decat in America

La 2008-11-22 18:43:38, roy a scris:

> Ahmed, sfatul meu SINCER:
>
> In loc sa ne flashnetezi cu cat de catastrofica e situatzia in America
> si ce bine e in Rusia, documenteaza-te un pic despre ce se intampla in
> curtea ta.
>
> Nu lipsesc materiale pe Internet. Nu mai exista doar Scanteia (si
> ziarul opozitziei "Romania Libera (sic!), nu mai exista doar Pravda
> si Trud.
>
> Please Ahmed, please!!!
>

gili
2008-11-22 20:00:17

Re: Gilica, nu cadea pe spate ... Aaaaa , apai asa vii acasa Frosinele ... As mai da ...

Ma bagasem la banuieli ... Si cum io-s cam nevricos de cind cu comunismusul asta ...
Da acuma gata , m-ai luminat ... Aprob ... pozitiv poci pentru ca sa zic , n'asa ?

M_D_L
2008-11-22 20:04:15

Re: Lumea in 2025

La 2008-11-21 23:02:22, carol zwilling1 a scris:

> Multi dintre noi nu o sa mai apuce aceste
> timpuri...................daca va mai ramane ceva din lume.
>

Sunteti pesimist si cam deprimat. Cati ani aveti ? Eu am implinit 51 de ani si sper sa mai traiesc cel putin inca 20, desi am avut tot timpul probleme cu sanatatea.

Hokusai san
2008-11-22 20:14:33

Ce sa mai lungim vorba, scumpa noastra America model de democratie, condusa de evrei, e pe tobogan

la valeee, spre in jos, tareee!!!!!