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2008-11-20
Evreu-rus din Rusia (...@yahoo.com, IP: 89.47.58...)
2008-11-20 00:39
Israel, Palestine and the Occupied Territories: Land and Settlement Issues

At the heart of the Israel/Palestine conflict lies the question of land and who rules it. The collision of Jewish nationalist colonisation and Palestian nationalism, both laying claim to the same territory, forms the basis of this long conflict, deepened by the tragedies of the Holocaust and of the dispossession and occupation of Palestine. The United Nations partition of the land in 1947, an effort to resolve the two claims simultaneously, did not result in a lasting settlement.

Since the war of 1967, Palestinians have come to accept the reality of Israel within the 1948 boundaries. The land dispute has increasingly focused on Israel's occupation of the remaining territories -- the West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem. UN Resolutions 242 and 338 stipulate that Israel must withdraw completely from these territories. Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip on 12 September 2005, but continues to build many Jewish settlements in the other territories, actions deemed illegal by virtually all other states. The Oslo Accords (1993) and the Road Map (2003) have failed to reach a land agreement between the parties or to bring Israeli withdrawal.

Since 2002, the Israeli government has been building a "security fence" that winds deep into Palestinian territory, claiming the barrier would keep Palestinian suicide bombers from striking Israeli citizens. But this separation wall is a major de facto annexation of Palestinian territories. By building the wall and increasing settlement expansion, Israel retains control over important Palestinian economic areas, agricultural grounds and natural resources like water. The International Court of Justice has ruled that Israel's West Bank barrier violates international law, but the unequal struggle over the land of Palestine continues.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/israel-palestine/occupindex.htm

Seherezada din din 1001 de Zile (...@yahoo.com, IP: 87.66.35...)
2008-11-20 00:54
Re: Israel, Palestine and the Occupied Territories: Land and Settlement Issues

La 2008-11-20 00:39:27, Evreu-rus a scris:

> Since the war of 1967, Palestinians have come to accept the reality of
> Israel within the 1948 boundaries.
--------------
da` de ce ??
ce s-o fi intimplat in acel razboi ??? te pomenesti ca l-au pierdut ???

pai ce te-a invatzat idolul tau Putin ca se intimpla cind pierzi un razboi ???

contraevreu-rus (...@aol.com, IP: 199.222.160...)
2008-11-20 01:56
Re: Israel, Palestine and the Occupied Territories: Land and Settlement Issues

Deci ai ajuns la concluzia ca cea mai buna aparare este atacul,cu tine e cazul sa discute cineva cum discuti cu un copil ,daca spun ca e ziua afara tu spui ca e noaptea findca traiesti cu perdelele trase si nici nu vrei sa vezi ca soarele este sus pe cer,uite articolul pe care nu vrei sa-l accepti,stiam ca revi cu propaganda AL JAZIRA ,CITESTE SI CEVA NORMAL abu Ahmed.Articolul este pe forum sau nu intelegi engleza si postezi ce trimete seful terorist.


La 2008-11-20 00:39:27, Evreu-rus a scris:

> At the heart of the Israel/Palestine conflict lies the question of
> land and who rules it. The collision of Jewish nationalist
> colonisation and Palestian nationalism, both laying claim to the same
> territory, forms the basis of this long conflict, deepened by the
> tragedies of the Holocaust and of the dispossession and occupation of
> Palestine. The United Nations partition of the land in 1947, an effort
> to resolve the two claims simultaneously, did not result in a lasting
> settlement.
>
> Since the war of 1967, Palestinians have come to accept the reality of
> Israel within the 1948 boundaries. The land dispute has increasingly
> focused on Israel's occupation of the remaining territories -- the
> West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem. UN Resolutions 242 and 338
> stipulate that Israel must withdraw completely from these
> territories. Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip on 12 September
> 2005, but continues to build many Jewish settlements in the other
> territories, actions deemed illegal by virtually all other states.
> The Oslo Accords (1993) and the Road Map (2003) have failed to reach
> a land agreement between the parties or to bring Israeli withdrawal.
>
> Since 2002, the Israeli government has been building a "security
> fence" that winds deep into Palestinian territory, claiming the
> barrier would keep Palestinian suicide bombers from striking Israeli
> citizens. But this separation wall is a major de facto annexation of
> Palestinian territories. By building the wall and increasing
> settlement expansion, Israel retains control over important
> Palestinian economic areas, agricultural grounds and natural
> resources like water. The International Court of Justice has ruled
> that Israel's West Bank barrier violates international law, but the
> unequal struggle over the land of Palestine continues.
>
> http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/israel-palestine/occupindex.htm
>
>

evreu mandru din israel din Israel (...@yahoo.com, IP: 84.109.80...)
2008-11-20 10:00
Re: Hamas Charter:

The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August
18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS,
is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the
territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive
manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the
basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad
(Islamic Holy War). The following are excerpts of the HAMAS
Covenant:

Goals of the HAMAS:

'The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian
movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is
Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of
Palestine.' (Article 6)

On the Destruction of Israel:

'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will
obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble)


The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area:

'The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession]
consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one
can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.'
(Article 11)

'Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the
Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem
wherever he may be.' (Article 13)

The Call to Jihad:

'The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the
individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation,
it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.' (Article 15)

'Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses
everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the
call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will
reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is
achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about.'
(Article 33)

Rejection of a Negotiated Peace Settlement:

'[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and
international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of
the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than
a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of
Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by
Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a
waste of time, an exercise in futility.' (Article 13)

Condemnation of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty:

'Egypt was, to a great extent, removed from the circle of struggle
[against Zionism] through the treacherous Camp David Agreement. The
Zionists are trying to draw other Arab countries into similar
agreements in order to bring them outside the circle of struggle.
...Leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism is high treason,
and cursed be he who perpetrates such an act.' (Article 32)

Anti-Semitic Incitement:

'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and
kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the
rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind
me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)

'The enemies have been scheming for a long time ... and have
accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money,
they took control of the world media... With their money they stirred
revolutions in various parts of the globe... They stood behind the
French Revolution, the Communist Revolution and most of the
revolutions we hear about... With their money they formed secret
organizations - such as the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs and the Lions -
which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies
and carry out Zionist interests... They stood behind World War I ...
and formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the
world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge
financial gains... There is no war going on anywhere without them
having their finger in it.' (Article 22)

'Zionism scheming has no end, and after Palestine, they will covet
expansion from the Nile to the Euphrates River. When they have
finished digesting the area on which they have laid their hand, they
will look forward to more expansion. Their scheme has been laid out
in the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'.' (Article 32)

'The HAMAS regards itself the spearhead and the vanguard of the
circle of struggle against World Zionism... Islamic groups all over
the Arab world should also do the same, since they are best equipped
for their future role in the fight against the warmongering Jews.'
(Article 32)


> La 2008-11-20 00:39:27, Evreu-rus a scris:
>
> > At the heart of the Israel/Palestine conflict lies the question of
> > land and who rules it. The collision of Jewish nationalist
> > colonisation and Palestian nationalism, both laying claim to the same
> > territory, forms the basis of this long conflict, deepened by the
> > tragedies of the Holocaust and of the dispossession and occupation of
> > Palestine. The United Nations partition of the land in 1947, an effort
> > to resolve the two claims simultaneously, did not result in a lasting
> > settlement.
>

evreu mandru din israel din Israel (...@yahoo.com, IP: 84.109.80...)
2008-11-20 11:47
Re: Ahmed...

ce zici de Hamas Charter?

La 2008-11-20 10:00:14, evreu mandru din israel a scris:

> The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August
> 18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS,
> is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the
> territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive
> manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the
> basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad
> (Islamic Holy War). The following are excerpts of the HAMAS
> Covenant:
>
> Goals of the HAMAS:
>
> 'The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian
> movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is
> Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of
> Palestine.' (Article 6)
>
> On the Destruction of Israel:
>
> 'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will
> obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble)
>
>
> The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area:
>
> 'The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession]
> consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one
> can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.'
> (Article 11)
>
> 'Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the
> Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem
> wherever he may be.' (Article 13)
>
> The Call to Jihad:
>
> 'The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the
> individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation,
> it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.' (Article 15)
>
> 'Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses
> everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the
> call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will
> reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is
> achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about.'
> (Article 33)
>
> Rejection of a Negotiated Peace Settlement:
>
> '[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and
> international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of
> the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than
> a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of
> Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by
> Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a
> waste of time, an exercise in futility.' (Article 13)
>
> Condemnation of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty:
>
> 'Egypt was, to a great extent, removed from the circle of struggle
> [against Zionism] through the treacherous Camp David Agreement. The
> Zionists are trying to draw other Arab countries into similar
> agreements in order to bring them outside the circle of struggle.
> ...Leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism is high treason,
> and cursed be he who perpetrates such an act.' (Article 32)
>
> Anti-Semitic Incitement:
>
> 'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and
> kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the
> rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind
> me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)
>
> 'The enemies have been scheming for a long time ... and have
> accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money,
> they took control of the world media... With their money they stirred
> revolutions in various parts of the globe... They stood behind the
> French Revolution, the Communist Revolution and most of the
> revolutions we hear about... With their money they formed secret
> organizations - such as the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs and the Lions -
> which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies
> and carry out Zionist interests... They stood behind World War I ...
> and formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the
> world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge
> financial gains... There is no war going on anywhere without them
> having their finger in it.' (Article 22)
>
> 'Zionism scheming has no end, and after Palestine, they will covet
> expansion from the Nile to the Euphrates River. When they have
> finished digesting the area on which they have laid their hand, they
> will look forward to more expansion. Their scheme has been laid out
> in the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'.' (Article 32)
>
> 'The HAMAS regards itself the spearhead and the vanguard of the
> circle of struggle against World Zionism... Islamic groups all over
> the Arab world should also do the same, since they are best equipped
> for their future role in the fight against the warmongering Jews.'
> (Article 32)
>
>
> > La 2008-11-20 00:39:27, Evreu-rus a scris:
> >
> > > At the heart of the Israel/Palestine conflict lies the question of
> > > land and who rules it. The collision of Jewish nationalist
> > > colonisation and Palestian nationalism, both laying claim to the same
> > > territory, forms the basis of this long conflict, deepened by the
> > > tragedies of the Holocaust and of the dispossession and occupation of
> > > Palestine. The United Nations partition of the land in 1947, an effort
> > > to resolve the two claims simultaneously, did not result in a lasting
> > > settlement.
> >
>


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