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2009-02-03

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chriscross
2009-02-03 11:16:44

aha!

c'mon already...

CAP-istul
2009-02-03 12:23:53

MI-AM NOTAT

Puneti fratilor o harta ceva. Ne-ati spart cu punctele.

chriscross
2009-02-03 13:10:57

aha!

subscriu...

calif la Gilistique
2009-02-03 13:36:26

De la Moskova ni se trage

De la Moskova ni se trage si crivatul si Voronin si cam tot ce-a fost rau pt noi in istorie

mihai8494
2009-02-03 14:40:04

Castigul trebuie sa fie AL ROMANIEI si AL ROMANILOR, nu "petrom" austriac

Castigul trebuie sa fie AL ROMANIEI si AL ROMANILOR, nu "petrom" austriac!!!
Bine a zis Tiriac, Petrom ar trebui nationalizat! Asta sa faca acest guvern!
Insa in nici un caz nu trebuie data pe mana petromului exploatarea acestui teritoriu!

Miroslav
2009-02-03 14:58:01

Care e Adevarul de Fapt: e Insula Serpilor Insula sou nu. Ucraina spune Da.

United Nations international court officially gives Serpent Island status as island
Today, 14:34
The International Court of the United Nations has officially declared the island status of Serpent Island, it was reported to Interfax-Ukraine by the Foreign Ministry press secretary Vasyl Kyrylych on Tuesday.

In The Hague (Netherlands) today, the UN International Court officially also announced its decision regarding the delimitation of the continental shelf and economic zones of Ukraine and Romania in the Black Sea.

According to the set procedure, the court ruling's announcement will be done in presence of both parties, represented by their official delegations. The country's commissioner in UN International Court Volodymyr Vasylenko will head Ukrainian delegation.

As Kyrylych reported earlier, whatever the court's decisions is, it will not affect Ukraine's state border and territory, and the separation line will be far from the country's state border.

As reported, in September 2004, Romania submitted a motion to the UN international court to rule on its dispute with Ukraine over the division of the Black Sea shelf and the economic zones in the Black Sea.

The main problem in the dispute is the status of Serpent Island, which Romania considers a rock, and not a fully-fledged island.

At present, the island, or the 1.5-square-kilomter rock, is home to 80 people, including employees of the lighthouse and scientists.

The Ukrainian parliament gave the name of Bily in February to the settlement on the rock or island.

The shelf of the Black Sea is rich in oil and natural gas.

Sursa: http://www.kyivpost.com/nation/34752

Starshij praporschik Shmatko
2009-02-03 15:00:23

Re: Castigul trebuie sa fie AL ROMANIEI si AL ROMANILOR, nu "petrom" austriac

La 2009-02-03 14:40:04, mihai8494 a scris:

> Castigul trebuie sa fie AL ROMANIEI si AL ROMANILOR, nu "petrom"
> austriac!!!
> Bine a zis Tiriac, Petrom ar trebui nationalizat! Asta sa faca acest
> guvern!
> Insa in nici un caz nu trebuie data pe mana petromului exploatarea
> acestui teritoriu!
>

Cum adica Austriac? Petrom Romanesc, TAB Romanesc , Logan Romanesc, Flot-ul Romanesc,etc. Toate bune si frumoase. Sa traiti bine!

Starshij praporschik Shmatko
2009-02-03 15:12:03

Re: Care e Adevarul de Fapt: e Insula Serpilor Insula sou nu. Ucraina spune Da.

La 2009-02-03 14:58:01, Miroslav a scris:

> United Nations international court officially gives Serpent Island
> status as island
> Today, 14:34
> The International Court of the United Nations has officially declared
> the island status of Serpent Island, it was reported to
> Interfax-Ukraine by the Foreign Ministry press secretary Vasyl
> Kyrylych on Tuesday.
>
> In The Hague (Netherlands) today, the UN International Court
> officially also announced its decision regarding the delimitation of
> the continental shelf and economic zones of Ukraine and Romania in
> the Black Sea.
>
> According to the set procedure, the court ruling's announcement will
> be done in presence of both parties, represented by their official
> delegations. The country's commissioner in UN International Court
> Volodymyr Vasylenko will head Ukrainian delegation.
>
> As Kyrylych reported earlier, whatever the court's decisions is, it
> will not affect Ukraine's state border and territory, and the
> separation line will be far from the country's state border.
>
> As reported, in September 2004, Romania submitted a motion to the UN
> international court to rule on its dispute with Ukraine over the
> division of the Black Sea shelf and the economic zones in the Black
> Sea.
>
> The main problem in the dispute is the status of Serpent Island, which
> Romania considers a rock, and not a fully-fledged island.
>
> At present, the island, or the 1.5-square-kilomter rock, is home to 80
> people, including employees of the lighthouse and scientists.
>
> The Ukrainian parliament gave the name of Bily in February to the
> settlement on the rock or island.
>
> The shelf of the Black Sea is rich in oil and natural gas.
>
> Sursa: http://www.kyivpost.com/nation/34752
>
Bai Miro-Slav-ule, de ce postezi in Ruseste, pe Rumynesti nu poti?

innumelemeu
2009-02-03 15:20:42

Este insula doar in capul lor - Curtea a spus ca nu poate fi considerata coasta, deci e stanca

Daca ar fi fost acceptata ca insula, ar fi trebuit sa primeasca platou continental cu o raza mult mai mare de 12 mile, asa cum a sustinut Romania si a si acceptat Curtea. Problema in Ucraina sta in felul urmator: pentru ca specialistii erau siguri ca nu o sa aiba castig de cauza si pentru ca, oricum, opozantii lui Iuscenko au profitat de ocazie ca sa il acuza de colaborationism cu Romania si NATO, niste "baieti destepti" au reusit sa induca populatiei ucrainene, in ultimul an, ideea ca Bucurestii vor sa recupereze Insula Serpilor. Nu conteaza ca Romania nu mai poate sa faca asta (pt ca a cedat ca proasta in 1997). Asa ca, pentru a nu pierde si mai mult sprijinul populatiei, au anuntat "marea victorie": Insula Serpilor a fost recunoscuta si revine Ucrainei. Ucrainenii au profitat si de faptul ca, pentru a nu incinge si mai mult spiritele in Ucraina, Curtea, considerand ca Stanca/Insula Serpilor nu merita mai mult de 12 mile marine, a evitat sa se pronunte si asupra carcaterului juridic. Asa ca Kievul a intors-o cum a vrut si prezinta o infrangere drept victorie.


La 2009-02-03 14:58:01, Miroslav a scris:

> United Nations international court officially gives Serpent Island
> status as island
> Today, 14:34
> The International Court of the United Nations has officially declared
> the island status of Serpent Island, it was reported to
> Interfax-Ukraine by the Foreign Ministry press secretary Vasyl
> Kyrylych on Tuesday.
>
> In The Hague (Netherlands) today, the UN International Court
> officially also announced its decision regarding the delimitation of
> the continental shelf and economic zones of Ukraine and Romania in
> the Black Sea.
>
> According to the set procedure, the court ruling's announcement will
> be done in presence of both parties, represented by their official
> delegations. The country's commissioner in UN International Court
> Volodymyr Vasylenko will head Ukrainian delegation.
>
> As Kyrylych reported earlier, whatever the court's decisions is, it
> will not affect Ukraine's state border and territory, and the
> separation line will be far from the country's state border.
>
> As reported, in September 2004, Romania submitted a motion to the UN
> international court to rule on its dispute with Ukraine over the
> division of the Black Sea shelf and the economic zones in the Black
> Sea.
>
> The main problem in the dispute is the status of Serpent Island, which
> Romania considers a rock, and not a fully-fledged island.
>
> At present, the island, or the 1.5-square-kilomter rock, is home to 80
> people, including employees of the lighthouse and scientists.
>
> The Ukrainian parliament gave the name of Bily in February to the
> settlement on the rock or island.
>
> The shelf of the Black Sea is rich in oil and natural gas.
>
> Sursa: http://www.kyivpost.com/nation/34752
>

STRUL
2009-02-03 15:23:42

AM CISTIGAT PENTRU CA NU A FOST NICI UN JUDECATORI ROMAN

daca era,ar fi fost deja corupt si...pierdeam :)

geek-a-contra
2009-02-03 15:46:24

ce a fost important de cistigat a fost cistigat

adicalea grosul supafetei platoului maritim. in clipa de fata revenirea stincii la Ro nu ar mai avea decit valoare morala, din punct de vedere practic nemaifiind aproare nici un cistig - in masura in care suprafata platoului continental aferent fiind minimal, cca 114mile patrate = cca 390kmp si liniile de coasta fiind aceleasi.

in ce prioveste cistigul alora de la petrom, nu stiu cum vine treaba in masura in care dupa cite stiu eu austriecii au exclusivitate numai asupra resurselor din sectoarele lor de concesionare / exploatare si nu asupra intregului teritoriu al Ro.

sa nu uit: toate resursela alea fabuloase de petrol si gaze, in fapt destul de modeste, sint numai BANUIT a exista dar nu si dovedite. asa ca ar fi mai bine sa nu pariati prea mult pe pielea ursului din padure.....

muresanu
2009-02-03 16:22:33

Totusi E ceva.

Dupa ce de ani de zile,luam pe nedrept bataie de la Italieni, bine si reparatzia aceasta morala. De la Ucraina. Versus Haga.
Stiu, ca nu e ceva "chetrol" acolo.
Muresanu.
Da' e bine.
Ceva dreptate s-a facut.

Duca
2009-02-03 20:42:25

Re: Care e Adevarul de Fapt: e Insula Serpilor Insula sou nu. Ucraina spune Da.

Idea ca Romania a acceptat "ca proasta" ca insula sa fie a Ucrainei in 1997, e putin exagerata. Romania a semnat procese verbale in 1948, 1949 si a ratificat si 1 tratat cu URSS in 1961 unde din nou reitera ca Insula Serpilor e a URSS-ului (deci si a Ucrainei ca succesoare ).

In plus oameni buni, insula e o stanca de 17 hectare - nu ea in sine e miza ci zacamintele din jurul ei.




La 2009-02-03 14:58:01, Miroslav a scris:

> United Nations international court officially gives Serpent Island
> status as island
> Today, 14:34
> The International Court of the United Nations has officially declared
> the island status of Serpent Island, it was reported to
> Interfax-Ukraine by the Foreign Ministry press secretary Vasyl
> Kyrylych on Tuesday.
>
> In The Hague (Netherlands) today, the UN International Court
> officially also announced its decision regarding the delimitation of
> the continental shelf and economic zones of Ukraine and Romania in
> the Black Sea.
>
> According to the set procedure, the court ruling's announcement will
> be done in presence of both parties, represented by their official
> delegations. The country's commissioner in UN International Court
> Volodymyr Vasylenko will head Ukrainian delegation.
>
> As Kyrylych reported earlier, whatever the court's decisions is, it
> will not affect Ukraine's state border and territory, and the
> separation line will be far from the country's state border.
>
> As reported, in September 2004, Romania submitted a motion to the UN
> international court to rule on its dispute with Ukraine over the
> division of the Black Sea shelf and the economic zones in the Black
> Sea.
>
> The main problem in the dispute is the status of Serpent Island, which
> Romania considers a rock, and not a fully-fledged island.
>
> At present, the island, or the 1.5-square-kilomter rock, is home to 80
> people, including employees of the lighthouse and scientists.
>
> The Ukrainian parliament gave the name of Bily in February to the
> settlement on the rock or island.
>
> The shelf of the Black Sea is rich in oil and natural gas.
>
> Sursa: http://www.kyivpost.com/nation/34752
>

D ANTON II
2009-02-03 21:10:18

Am cistigat...ce era al Romaniei

Insa Ucraina a cistigat insula, pt ca acum Romania nu mai poate solicita retrocedarea Insulei Serpilor ! Rezervele de petrol si gaze -estimate- nici nu sint prea mari, rafinariile romanesti proceseaza anual mai mult petrol decit rezerva estimata la 10 milione de tone. Nici la gaze nu este vorba de zacaminte foarte mari, caci potentialul a fost apreciat intre 70 si 100 de miliarde mc , adica aproximativ necesarul pe zece ani, al Romaniei ! Sintem mai euforici decit ucrainenii !


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