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Artistul2007 din US (...@hotmail.com, IP: 64.135.101...)
2009-12-05 20:38
Ortodoxiae si maghiara caci pana la 1000 ungurii au fost ortodocsi

A veni la ortodoxie insemna pentru protestanti a veni acasa, la Biserica luiIIsus.
Exista un document istoric ce zice asa: "Noi care am asezat in societatile ... discordia si protestantismul", prin noi se intelege grup ocult, bineinteles.
If you are a Lutheran, your religion was founded by Martin Luther, an ex-monk of the Catholic Church, in the year 1517.
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If you are ORTHODOX Christian, your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ, the Son of God. It has not changed since that time. Our church is now almost 2,000 years old. And it is for this reason, that Orthodoxy, the Church of the Apostles and the Fathers is considered the true "one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church." This is the greatest legacy that we can pass on to the young people of the new millennium."

meditare (...@hotmail.com, IP: 85.179.204...)
2009-12-06 00:13
Re: Ortodoxiae si maghiara caci pana la 1000 ungurii au fost ortodocsi

La 2009-12-05 20:38:05, Artistul2007 a scris:

> A veni la ortodoxie insemna pentru protestanti a veni acasa, la
> Biserica luiIIsus.
> Exista un document istoric ce zice asa: "Noi care am asezat in
> societatile ... discordia si protestantismul", prin noi se intelege
> grup ocult, bineinteles.
> If you are a Lutheran, your religion was founded by Martin Luther, an
> ex-monk of the Catholic Church, in the year 1517.
> ...

Daca bine am vazut lipseste din lipsta cea mai mare "grupa" a crestinilor, adica catolicii. Oare nu au este religia lor fondat de aceeasi Isus in 33? Si totusi nu sunt ortodocsi. Dar nici lutheranii nu incep numarotarea cu Luther, ci se considera continuatori ai catolicismului dar intr-o forma purificata, care era o reactie la dacaderea totala a moralitatii in biserica catolica a vremii. Chiar biserica catolica a preluat multe din reformele lui Luther cu prilejul "contrareformatiei".

Si intorcandu-ne la Isus, El nu a spus la vremea respectiva nimic depre problemele care desparte astazio catolicii, ortodocsii si sa zicem evanghelicii. Cele mai mari diferente nu se bazeaza pe Biblie sau pe spusele lui Isus, ci pe niste "obiceiuri sfante", care insa se tot schimba. Dar atunici cine are dreptate?

Cam complicata treaba...


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