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Pedophilia & Islam:

Allowed by Allah; Practised & Patronized by Prophet Muhammad

by Ayesha Ahmed

12 Apr, 2008

Having sex with underage children is popular in sharia countries. Find out why?

http://www.islam-watch.org/AyeshaAhmed/Pedophilia-Islam-Allah

La 2009-05-03 23:24:50, antiohus a scris:

> Pedophilia & Islam:
>
> Allowed by Allah; Practised & Patronized by Prophet Muhammad
>
> by Ayesha Ahmed
>
> 12 Apr, 2008
>
> Having sex with underage children is popular in sharia countries. Find
> out why?
>
> http://www.islam-watch.org/AyeshaAhmed/Pedophilia-Islam-Allah

Talmudic pedophilia and incest exposed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQuMbgAXgGI

Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).
Traducere: "Un evreu se poate insura cu o fetita de 3 ani (mai precis, 3 ani si o zi)".

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.
Traducere: "Un evreu poate avea sex cu un copil atat timp cat copilul are mai putin de 9 ani".

Kethuboth 11b. “When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing.”
Traducere: "Cand un barbat matur face sex cu o fetita nu inseamna nimic".

aia "copy/paste"

cu alte cuvinte,cineva pe threadul asta minte...nu ca ar fi ceva nou,dar orisicat...



The three citations are not from the Torah. They are references to
the Talmud. I will have to check the first reference to see what it
really says, but I know from prior research how the other two references
are distorted. The first one probably is as well, since Sanhedrin is
largely concerned with death penalty law, not marital law.


>< Sanhedrin 55b . A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically,
>three years "and a day" old).
>
>< Sanhedrin 54b . A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is
>less than nine years old.

Due to a legal technicality, homosexual sex between an adult male and
a male child does not incur the death penalty as would homosexual sex
between two adult males. Instead the crime is punished by whipping.
There was a strong resistance to the death penalty - it was said that a
Sanhedrin (think of it as a Supreme Court) which executed someone once
every seven years was a bloodthirsty court, to which another rabbi replied
that even once in seventy years was excessive. The least technicality in
the wording would be used to justify changing the penalty from death to
whipping. This was in part for their own protection - carrying out an
unjust death penalty was thought to be a worse sin on the part of the
rabbis than failure to carry out an execution.

The discussion does not mean that the act is permissible - in tractate
Makkoth, which discusses the laws relevant to the punihment of whipping,
there is no age-based exception to the penalty. (The Talmud is organized
rather strangely - rather than grouping similar crimes together and
talking about how the punishments change depending on the circumstances,
it groups crimes together by the type of punishment. Death penalty law is
generally collected in Sanhedrin; whipping in Makkoth; a kind of spiritual
excommunication known as _kareth_ is discussed in tractate Kerithoth.)


>< Kethuboth 11b . "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl
>it is nothing."

The subject of discussion is the marital property rights of virgins
vs. nonvirgins. Virgins have greater entitlements. The rabbis discussed
the hypothetical case of a girl raped at an age less than three years old
- for the purposes of her rights at marriage, is she considered a virgin
or a nonvirgin? The answer is that she is considered a virgin. The
quotation is out of context - _for the purposes of determining her
rights,_ if a girl less than three has sex with a man, it is nothing. The
phrase "it is nothing" is a common Talmudic idiom meaning "it has no
bearing on the matter under discussion" (in this case, her property rights
at marriage). It does NOT mean "it is perfectly acceptable."

Hope this helps.

La 2009-05-04 01:14:47, antiohus minte.

PEDOPHILIA:THE TALMUD'S DIRTY SECRET
http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/pedophiliasecret.html

In the late 19th century, most European Jews were a people of the
book.
But their book wasn&#8217;t the Bible. It was the Babylonian Talmud.
To this day, the Talmud remains Judaism's highest moral, ethical
and legal authority.
Does the Talmud share Christianity's foundation of wholesome moral
values?
Hardly. Instead, the Talmud is the sleazy substrata of a religious
system gone terribly astray; it is that code of Pharisaic unbelief
Christ described as "full of all uncleanness" (Matt. 23:27).
Shockingly, Judaism's most revered authority actually endorses such
sins aslying, oath-breaking, and indirect murder. And it even
sanctions one of the greatest sins of all: child molestation.
Three Year Old Brides
When Christ accused the Pharisees of His day of being Satan's
spiritual children, He fully realized what they were capable of.
Second century Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai, one of Judaism's very
greatest rabbis and a creator of Kabbalah, sanctioned
pedophilia-permitting molestation of baby girls even younger than
three! He proclaimed, "A proselyte who is under the age of three
years and a day is permitted to marry a priest."
Subsequent rabbis refer to ben Yohai's endorsement of
pedophilia as "halakah," or binding Jewish law.
Has ben Yohai, child rape advocate, been disowned by modern Jews?
Hardly.
Today, in ben Yohai's hometown of Meron, Israel, tens of
thousands of orthodox and ultra-orthodox Jews gather
annually for days and nights of singing and dancing in his memory.
References to pedophilia abound in the Talmud. They occupy
considerable sections of Treatises Kethuboth and Yebamoth and are
enthusiastically endorsed by the Talmud's definitive legal work,
Treatise Sanhedrin.
Out of Babylon
It was in Babylon after the exile under Nebuchadnezzar in 597 BC that
Judaism's leading sages probably began to indulge in pedophilia.
Babylon was the staggeringly immoral capitol of the ancient world.
For 1600 years, the world&#8217;s largest population of Jews flourished
within it.
As an example of their evil, Babylonian priests said a man's
religious duty included regular sex with temple prostitutes.
Bestiality was widely tolerated. So Babylonians hardly cared
whether a rabbi married a three year old girl.
But with expulsion of the Jews in the 11th century AD, mostly to
western Christian lands, Gentile tolerance of Jewish pedophilia
abruptly ended.
Still, a shocking contradiction lingers: If Jews want to revere the
transcendent wisdom and moral guidance of the Pharisees and their
Talmud, they must accept the right of their greatest ancient sages
to violate children. To this hour, no synod of Judaism has repudiated
their vile practice.
Sex with a &#8220;Minor&#8221; Permitted
What exactly did these sages say?
The Pharisees justified child rape by explaining that a boy of nine
years was not a "man".
Thus they exempted him from God's Mosaic Law: "You shall not lie with
a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination" (Lev. 18:22)
A woman could molest a young boy without questions of morality even
being raised: "&#8230;the intercourse of a small boy is not regarded as a
sexual act."
The Talmud also says, "A male aged nine years and a day who cohabits
with his deceased brother's wife acquires her (as wife)."
Sex at Three Years and One Day
In contrast to Simeon ben Yohai's dictum that sex with a little girl
is permitted under the age of three years, the general teaching of the
Talmud is that the rabbi must wait until a day after her third
birthday.
She could be taken in marriage simply by the act of rape.
R. Joseph said: Come and hear! A maiden aged three years and a day
may be acquired in marriage by coition and if her deceased husband's
brother cohabits with her, she becomes his. (Sanh. 55b)
A girl who is three years of age and one day may be betrothed by
cohabitation. . . .(Yeb. 57b)
A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by
coition, and if her deceased husband's brother cohabited with her she
becomes his. (Sanh. 69a, 69b, also discussed in Yeb. 60b)
It was taught: R. Simeon b. Yohai stated: A proselyte who is under the
age of three years and one day is permitted to marry a priest, for it
is said, But all the women children that have not known man by lying
with him, keep alive for yourselves, and Phineas (who was priest, the
footnote says) surely was with them.(Yeb. 60b)
The example of Phineas, a priest, himself marrying an underage virgin
of three years is considered by the Talmud as proof that such infants
are "fit for cohabitation."
The Talmud teaches that an adult woman&#8217;s molestation of a nine year
old boy is "not a sexual act" and cannot "throw guilt" upon her
because the little boy is not truly a "man."
But they use opposite logic to sanction rape of little girls aged
three years and one day: Such infants they count as "women," sexually
mature and fully responsible to comply with the requirements of
marriage.
The Talmud footnotes 3 and 4 to Sanhedrin 55a clearly tell us when the
rabbis considered a boy and girl sexually mature and thus ready for
marriage.
"At nine years a male attains sexual matureness&#8230;
The sexual matureness of woman is reached at the age of three."