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contraevreu-rus
2009-10-16 21:43:47

IN SALHA sa speram ca si adjunctul lui

AhmadineZUB sa aibe aceias soarta si cat mai repede.Daca inca nu a dat sufletul lui alah sper sa nu mai dureze prea mult timp.

dorinP
2009-10-16 23:20:37

Omisiuni

Imi e perpendicular daca stirea este adevarata sau nu. Gasesc insa domnule Tesu ca ati uitat in graba traducerii sa precizati presupusa sursa a zvonului, Michael Ledeen, cunoscut deja ca fabrica la comanda zvonuri false. Informatia poate fi gasita in acelas articol din Guardian pe care-l pomeniti.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2009/oct/15/khamenei-iran-rumour-death

[...]
It seems to have all been started – or at least given credence – by the leading American neocon Michael Ledeen.

Quoting an "excellent" but anonymous source, on Monday he wrote: "Yesterday afternoon at 2.15pm local time Khamenei collapsed and was taken to his
special clinic. Nobody – except his son and the doctors – has since been allowed to get near him. His official, but secret, status is 'in the hands of the gods'."

Yesterday Ledeen repeated rumours that have been going around the Tehran Bazaar that Khamenei had died.

But Ledeen has a track record in spreading misinformation, according to the US magazine Vanity Fair, which claimed he was linked in the false reports that Saddam Hussein tried to buy yellowcake uranium in Niger – one of the main pretexts for the invasion of Iraq.

And in January 2007 he falsely reported Khamenei's death.
[...]

Evreu-rus
2009-10-17 00:26:01

Re: IN SALHA sa speram ca si adjunctul lui

La 2009-10-16 21:43:47, contraevreu-rus a scris:

> AhmadineZUB sa aibe aceias soarta si cat mai repede.Daca inca nu a dat
> sufletul lui alah sper sa nu mai dureze prea mult timp.

Dar despre criminalul de razboi Ariel Sharon ce se mai aude? Nu a putrezit inca? Ori l-ati imbalsamat si l-ati expus la Muzeul Armatei din Tel Aviv? Cred ca voi trece si eu pe acolo vreodata, ptr a vedea cu ochii mei cum arata un criminal mumificat.

logofatul de taina
2009-10-17 00:54:20

ESTE IN CAZANUL CU ZMOALA de aia nu e vazut, dar a fost luat prea tarziu, raul este deja facut

a fost luat insa prea tarziu, raul este deja facut, oranduirea islamica a patruns tot Iranul ca o pecingine

Roxana
2009-10-17 02:46:24

alamar
2009-10-17 07:56:35

Re: Omisiuni

La 2009-10-16 23:20:37, dorinP a scris:

> Imi e perpendicular daca stirea este adevarata sau nu. Gasesc insa
> domnule Tesu ca ati uitat in graba traducerii sa precizati presupusa
> sursa a zvonului, Michael Ledeen, cunoscut deja ca fabrica la comanda
> zvonuri false. Informatia poate fi gasita in acelas articol din
> Guardian pe care-l pomeniti.
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2009/oct/15/khamenei-iran-rumour-death
>
> [...]
> It seems to have all been started – or at least given credence
> – by the leading American neocon Michael Ledeen.
>
> Quoting an "excellent" but anonymous source, on Monday he wrote:
> "Yesterday afternoon at 2.15pm local time Khamenei collapsed and was
> taken to his
> special clinic. Nobody – except his son and the doctors –
> has since been allowed to get near him. His official, but secret,
> status is 'in the hands of the gods'."
>
> Yesterday Ledeen repeated rumours that have been going around the
> Tehran Bazaar that Khamenei had died.
>
> But Ledeen has a track record in spreading misinformation, according
> to the US magazine Vanity Fair, which claimed he was linked in the
> false reports that Saddam Hussein tried to buy yellowcake uranium in
> Niger – one of the main pretexts for the invasion of Iraq.
>
> And in January 2007 he falsely reported Khamenei's death.
> [...]
>
Dle fizician nuclear ( virtual ) si purtator de cuvant al mulahilor din teheran Ratacitul , sunt de acord cu ce ai scris mai sus , si doresc sa adaug( in ciuda omisiunilor dtale de mai sus , in care il critici pe dl Solomovici de...omisiuni )... ca ziarul : Guardian este deasemnea un ziar de aceeasi orintare cu cea a dtale : neo marxista , plina de minciuni , la adrsa americii , a capitalismului a crestinismului ....

Acum ...cateva cuvinte despre acest caine turbat , care sper ca a muscat tarana...

Daca se ducea in Israel ptr. tratamnet sau daca venea in america ptr. a fi tratat de medicii americani ( multi evrei )...poate ca scarnavia mai traia vreo cativa ani...

Acum cateva cuvinte despre dta dle fizician nuclear ( virtual ) si purtator de cuvant al cainilor turbati din iran...

Eu am asteptata sa citesc vreo postare de-a dtale vizavi de crimele si revoltele studentilor din iran din vara trecuta....dta ai forst : MIA ( Missing in action ), la acele evenimente...


Acum , ca un zvon , lansat de un ziar de aceeasi orinetare ideologica precum a dtale lanseaza un zvon despre dispartia unui caine turbat al Lumii dta te simti nevoit sa critici aceste zvonuri , esti inconfortabil cu aceasta idee...ca Lumea are un caine turbat in deficit...

Intre timp ., dai sfaturi din canada , despre ce si cum se manaca democratia in romania...

alamar
2009-10-17 08:03:18

To : dorinP...

Dle P...este evident ca ti-am confundat identitatea cu dl Ratacitul...

Te rog ignora nick ul de : " ratacitul si calificarea de fizician nuclear ( virtual ) ...

Restul ...este valabil...

Acum inteleg de ce cainele turbat Ruholah Khomeini a ales franta ca refugiu...

Acum inteleg de ce Yasser Arafat , a ales franta ca loc de tratament...

O gramada de democrati si umanisti in franta asta ...femeia lil , dna Roxana , MirceaS , dorinP , antirasistul , the . si o gramada de alti democrati miortici care si-au gasit locasul in aceasta tara...

Eu nu stiu inca care tara este mai plina de democrati mioritici : canda , america , sau franta ??...

Biber07
2009-10-17 09:06:02

Ayatollahul

Asta-i acum "CONSILIERUL" lui Ceausescu!
DOAMNE APARA DREAPTA CREDINTA !

akimottte
2009-10-17 09:06:11

Re: IN SALHA sa speram ca si adjunctul lui

Prin postarea acestui dement va puteti da seama unde duce dragostea de pace evreiasca....
Noroc ca Ahmadinejad nu-l aude si-si vede de treaba !



La 2009-10-16 21:43:47, contraevreu-rus a scris:

> AhmadineZUB sa aibe aceias soarta si cat mai repede.Daca inca nu a dat
> sufletul lui alah sper sa nu mai dureze prea mult timp.
>

akimottte
2009-10-17 09:22:48

Re: Omisiuni

Uita-te si tu ba scabie afumata ce frumos a scris Roxy.....concis ... scurt....la subiect....interesant.... captivant, chiar....daca ai oarece imaginatie....
Tie chiar iti place sa ramii chioru' satului....ca Gioana ?
Ce nu te baga lumea in seama innaqinte....ma rog, poate 3-4 l;imbisti ca tine...dar acum e nashpa varule....
Incearca un stomatolog..... ca , zau, iti pute rau gura.....



La 2009-10-17 07:56:35, alamar a scris:

> La 2009-10-16 23:20:37, dorinP a scris:
>
> > Imi e perpendicular daca stirea este adevarata sau nu. Gasesc insa
> > domnule Tesu ca ati uitat in graba traducerii sa precizati presupusa
> > sursa a zvonului, Michael Ledeen, cunoscut deja ca fabrica la comanda
> > zvonuri false. Informatia poate fi gasita in acelas articol din
> > Guardian pe care-l pomeniti.
> >
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2009/oct/15/khamenei-iran-rumour-death
> >
> > [...]
> > It seems to have all been started – or at least given credence
> > – by the leading American neocon Michael Ledeen.
> >
> > Quoting an "excellent" but anonymous source, on Monday he wrote:
> > "Yesterday afternoon at 2.15pm local time Khamenei collapsed and was
> > taken to his
> > special clinic. Nobody – except his son and the doctors –
> > has since been allowed to get near him. His official, but secret,
> > status is 'in the hands of the gods'."
> >
> > Yesterday Ledeen repeated rumours that have been going around the
> > Tehran Bazaar that Khamenei had died.
> >
> > But Ledeen has a track record in spreading misinformation, according
> > to the US magazine Vanity Fair, which claimed he was linked in the
> > false reports that Saddam Hussein tried to buy yellowcake uranium in
> > Niger – one of the main pretexts for the invasion of Iraq.
> >
> > And in January 2007 he falsely reported Khamenei's death.
> > [...]
> >
> Dle fizician nuclear ( virtual ) si purtator de cuvant al mulahilor
> din teheran Ratacitul , sunt de acord cu ce ai scris mai sus , si
> doresc sa adaug( in ciuda omisiunilor dtale de mai sus , in care il
> critici pe dl Solomovici de...omisiuni )... ca ziarul : Guardian este
> deasemnea un ziar de aceeasi orintare cu cea a dtale : neo marxista ,
> plina de minciuni , la adrsa americii , a capitalismului a
> crestinismului ....
>
> Acum ...cateva cuvinte despre acest caine turbat , care sper ca a
> muscat tarana...
>
> Daca se ducea in Israel ptr. tratamnet sau daca venea in america ptr.
> a fi tratat de medicii americani ( multi evrei )...poate ca scarnavia
> mai traia vreo cativa ani...
>
> Acum cateva cuvinte despre dta dle fizician nuclear ( virtual ) si
> purtator de cuvant al cainilor turbati din iran...
>
> Eu am asteptata sa citesc vreo postare de-a dtale vizavi de crimele si
> revoltele studentilor din iran din vara trecuta....dta ai forst : MIA
> ( Missing in action ), la acele evenimente...
>
>
> Acum , ca un zvon , lansat de un ziar de aceeasi orinetare ideologica
> precum a dtale lanseaza un zvon despre dispartia unui caine turbat al
> Lumii dta te simti nevoit sa critici aceste zvonuri , esti
> inconfortabil cu aceasta idee...ca Lumea are un caine turbat in
> deficit...
>
> Intre timp ., dai sfaturi din canada , despre ce si cum se manaca
> democratia in romania...
>
>
>

Orlando
2009-10-17 15:23:02

Re: To : dorinP...

La 2009-10-17 08:03:18, alamar a scris:

> Dle P...este evident ca ti-am confundat identitatea cu dl
> Ratacitul...
>
> Te rog ignora nick ul de : " ratacitul si calificarea de fizician
> nuclear ( virtual ) ...
>
> Restul ...este valabil...
>
> Acum inteleg de ce cainele turbat Ruholah Khomeini a ales franta ca
> refugiu...
>
> Acum inteleg de ce Yasser Arafat , a ales franta ca loc de
> tratament...
>
> O gramada de democrati si umanisti in franta asta ...femeia lil , dna
> Roxana , MirceaS , dorinP , antirasistul , the . si o gramada de alti
> democrati miortici care si-au gasit locasul in aceasta tara...
>
> Eu nu stiu inca care tara este mai plina de democrati mioritici :
> canda , america , sau franta ??...

Aici va contrazic :Franta are o elita conservatoare(Revel,Glucksmann s.a.)care este proamericana si care s-a decis (e adevarat cu greu)sa sustina candidatura unui Sarkozy.(acum,cu "printzul Jean",geniul Parisului,la 23 de ani,nu cred ca mai are multi adepti,membrii Academiei Franceze..)Cum este adevarat si ce spuneti dvs.si este clar pentru restul european,in Franta exista multi marxisti,troskisti si maoisti(care in Germania trec la categoria "ideologii impaiate")Si in fond <de stanga>sunt toti cei care nu au nimic si cred ca tocmai cei care au studiat si au ,sunt de vina.....
>

Evreu-rus
2009-10-17 16:15:53

O analiza interesanta

Is Ayatollah Khamenei dead or in a coma?
posted by Aziz Poonawalla
Take this with a heavy dose of salt, as it may more reflect wishful thinking on the part of the American Enterprise Institute (which is neocon central), but there are supposedly rumors in Tehran that Khamenei has died:
Rumors that Iran's Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei, has died began circulating yesterday in Tehran's bazaar. Today, Iranian bloggers report an "abnormal atmosphere in the city" and increased presence of plainclothes agents in the capital.
(...) The passing of Khamenei would represent a seismic shift in the Islamic Republic's power equations. With no successor-designate, Khamenei's death would unleash a huge power struggle.
Several things will happen once Khamenei dies. Officially, the Assembly of Experts, currently headed by former President Hashemi Rafsanjani, anoints the next Supreme Leader. Behind the scenes, however, the major power brokers-whether on the assembly or not-will jockey for power and seek consensus. If the decision is fractious, the assembly may decide to appoint a clerical council in the interregnum period.
The Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) will seek to influence the selection, either of the interregnum council or of the next Supreme Leader. The most radical scenario-but an increasingly plausible one-would be for the IRGC to lobby to abolish the institution of leadership, thereby transforming the Islamic Republic into a presidential system and giving ultimate power to current president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, a veteran of the IRGC and its primary benefactor.
I think that this analysis (by stalwart neocons at the AEI) discounts Rafsanjani a bit too easily. Power centralizing in Ahmadinejad's hands would be a wet dream of sorts for those who insist on cataclysmic confrontation with Iran; they prefer the simplistic view of Iran's internal politics, rather than the complicated picture that emerged during the post-election protests. It's extremely unlikely that the IRGC would not want at least some clerical figleaf for their puppet; if the Supreme Leader title ceases to exist, so too does the Islamic Republic itself, as far as ideology goes. If it's Ahmadinejad in power, then Iran might as well be... Egypt.
I'd scan the Iranian tweets to see what they make of this, but Twitter is down as of this post. Maybe the rumors are true and the twitterverse just imploded as the entirety of Iran came online to exult. But I doubt it. Or it could just be wishful thinking/rumor mongering by Michael "faster, please" Ledeen, citing "excellent sources."
Khamenei dead? UPDATE: twitter is back; here's the real-time search results for "Khamenei". Rumors are thick, with Khamenei reputed to be in a coma or dead. Among the memes taking shape, is the suggestion that Khamenei has been "disposed of". Oh, boy.
UPDATE 2: Rumors say that there will be an official announcement on Iranian state television in the morning (which is actually pretty soon - I'll stay up late as I can to monitor). Here's what Ledeen's source claims, though I find the reference to "gods" (plural) rather suspicious:
Yesterday afternoon at 2.15PM local time, Khamenei collapsed and
was taken to his special clinic. Nobody - except his son and the
doctors - has since been allowed to get near him.
His official, but secret, status is: "in the hands of the gods".
Reportedly this collapse is natural. Many would like him to move to his
afterlife but reportedly the collapse was not 'externally induced'
[no poisioning]. The few insiders who know about the collapse see
this development "as a gift from the gods".
His condition had already seriously deteriorated over the last
months, aggravated by his nervous condition due to his
inability to solve the problems created by his manipulation of the
election results and the refusal of [a large part of] the
population to accept this, plus his loss of religious authority
by means of the repeated condemnations of events by senior clerics
Reportedly the principal aims of Khamenei of the last couple of
weeks, if not months, were to ensure a positive reputation as
his legacy and the physical survival of his family members and
their wealth, reportedly now largely in Syria and in Turkey (remember the truck convoy of $8.5 billion in cash and gold that was seized by the Turks?).
Outlook is uncertain but speculation is - considering that he is in
coma since more than 24 hours - that he may not come out of his coma and/or that he may die very soon.
If he dies it is expected that immediately a bloody clash will
develop between the powers behind Rafsanjani, who will immediately
claim temporary religious authority and overall control, and the
powers behind Achmadinejad who will scramble in order to regain
control and ensure their survival.

http://blog.beliefnet.com/cityofbrass/2009/10/is-ayatollah-khamenei-dead.html

Evreu-rus
2009-10-17 16:46:25

Re: Omisiuni

La 2009-10-17 07:56:35, alamar a scris:

> Acum ...cateva cuvinte despre acest caine turbat , care sper ca a
> muscat tarana...
>
> Daca se ducea in Israel ptr. tratamnet sau daca venea in america ptr.
> a fi tratat de medicii americani ( multi evrei )...poate ca scarnavia
> mai traia vreo cativa ani...

Medici evrei? Daca intra pe mainile medicilor evrei, era acum oale si ulcele. Si nu pun la indoiala o clipa profesionalismul lor, cat bunavointa de a-l trata corespunzator pe cel pe care-l considera inamic.

contraevreu-rus
2009-10-17 21:28:16

Re: IN SALHA sa speram ca si adjunctul lui

Sper sa ajungi in situatia lui Sharom IN SHALA si am sa ma rog pentru tine ,o sa spun IMAH SMEHA LE KOL A ZMANIM si un parastas am sa fac cu coliva si tuica.


La 2009-10-17 00:26:01, Evreu-rus a scris:

> La 2009-10-16 21:43:47, contraevreu-rus a scris:
>
> > AhmadineZUB sa aibe aceias soarta si cat mai repede.Daca inca nu a dat
> > sufletul lui alah sper sa nu mai dureze prea mult timp.
>
> Dar despre criminalul de razboi Ariel Sharon ce se mai aude? Nu a
> putrezit inca? Ori l-ati imbalsamat si l-ati expus la Muzeul Armatei
> din Tel Aviv? Cred ca voi trece si eu pe acolo vreodata, ptr a vedea
> cu ochii mei cum arata un criminal mumificat.
>
>

contraevreu-rus
2009-10-17 21:37:17

Re: IN SALHA sa speram ca si adjunctul lui

Iar it-i postezi CV pe forum ,nenorocitule ,vezi ca cocoasa pe care o ai a ajuns sa-ti intunece creierul,cine a scris despre Sharon cand a cazut in come ,turbatule asta nu e Notre Dame unde akimottte cocosatul trage clopotele ,este un forum in care debili ca tine si evreul-ruSS varsati veninul vostru contra evreilor si a Israelului,mars de aici taratura jegoasa.


La 2009-10-17 09:06:11, akimottte a scris:

> Prin postarea acestui dement va puteti da seama unde duce dragostea
> de pace evreiasca....
> Noroc ca Ahmadinejad nu-l aude si-si vede de treaba !
>
>
>
> La 2009-10-16 21:43:47, contraevreu-rus a scris:
>
> > AhmadineZUB sa aibe aceias soarta si cat mai repede.Daca inca nu a dat
> > sufletul lui alah sper sa nu mai dureze prea mult timp.
> >
>
>

geamanu
2009-10-17 22:55:43

Re: IN SALHA sa speram ca si adjunctul lui

La 2009-10-17 21:37:17, contraevreu-rus a scris:

> Iar it-i postezi CV pe forum ,nenorocitule ,vezi ca cocoasa pe care o
> ai a ajuns sa-ti intunece creierul,cine a scris despre Sharon cand a
> cazut in come ,turbatule asta nu e Notre Dame unde akimottte
> cocosatul trage clopotele ,este un forum in care debili ca tine si
> evreul-ruSS varsati veninul vostru contra evreilor si a
> Israelului,mars de aici taratura jegoasa.
>
>
> La 2009-10-17 09:06:11, akimottte a scris:
>
> > Prin postarea acestui dement va puteti da seama unde duce dragostea
> > de pace evreiasca....
> > Noroc ca Ahmadinejad nu-l aude si-si vede de treaba !
> >
> >
> >
> > La 2009-10-16 21:43:47, contraevreu-rus a scris:
> >
> > > AhmadineZUB sa aibe aceias soarta si cat mai repede.Daca inca nu a dat
> > > sufletul lui alah sper sa nu mai dureze prea mult timp.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Totusi ambii fac impresie buna........

contraevreu-rus
2009-10-18 00:05:49

Re: IN SALHA sa speram ca si adjunctul lui

Ai un frate sau o sora tot atat de desteapta ca tine?



La 2009-10-17 22:55:43, geamanu a scris:

> La 2009-10-17 21:37:17, contraevreu-rus a scris:
>
> > Iar it-i postezi CV pe forum ,nenorocitule ,vezi ca cocoasa pe care o
> > ai a ajuns sa-ti intunece creierul,cine a scris despre Sharon cand a
> > cazut in come ,turbatule asta nu e Notre Dame unde akimottte
> > cocosatul trage clopotele ,este un forum in care debili ca tine si
> > evreul-ruSS varsati veninul vostru contra evreilor si a
> > Israelului,mars de aici taratura jegoasa.
> >
> >
> > La 2009-10-17 09:06:11, akimottte a scris:
> >
> > > Prin postarea acestui dement va puteti da seama unde duce dragostea
> > > de pace evreiasca....
> > > Noroc ca Ahmadinejad nu-l aude si-si vede de treaba !
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > La 2009-10-16 21:43:47, contraevreu-rus a scris:
> > >
> > > > AhmadineZUB sa aibe aceias soarta si cat mai repede.Daca inca nu a dat
> > > > sufletul lui alah sper sa nu mai dureze prea mult timp.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> Totusi ambii fac impresie buna........
>

tovmatei
2009-10-18 09:55:54

Re: ESTE IN CAZANUL CU ZMOALA de aia nu e vazut, dar a fost luat prea tarziu, raul este deja facut

Daaaa...ai dreptate.
Si cand te gandesti ca Iranul era iudaic inainte....
Uite ce a adus asta cu el....islamismul..



La 2009-10-17 00:54:20, logofatul de taina a scris:

> a fost luat insa prea tarziu, raul este deja facut, oranduirea
> islamica a patruns tot Iranul ca o pecingine
>


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