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unii republicani simt ca e momentul sa se disocieze de strigatele Clubului Limbo ... O`Reilly etc ...

De exemplu ... senatorul republican Lindsey Graham....

sustine ca :
<<torture does not work in the long run, ... the Abu Ghraib scandal ``the biggest mistake we made in the war.``>>

despre cacofonia radiofonica:
<<Only in America can you make that much money crying&#8230;I mean, you know, what [do] I think about Rush Limbaugh?
Well, I think he makes hundreds of millions of dollars being able to talk on the radio.>>

despre suportul sau fatza de Presedintele USA:

The Republican senator also signaled his support for Mr. Obama, who he said ``has a plate full of unimaginable problems.``:
<<Do I want some of his policies to fail? You better believe it.>>
<<Do I want him to fail? No. Because he`s my commander-in-chief.>>

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/10/01/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5356087.shtml

Irelevant Shehe.............SELECTZIUNI.......pe linga ca nu intzeleg ideia postarii asteia.........


La 2009-10-03 17:31:09, Seherezada a scris:

> unii republicani simt ca e momentul sa se disocieze de strigatele
> Clubului Limbo ... O`Reilly etc ...
>
> De exemplu ... senatorul republican Lindsey Graham....
>
> sustine ca :
> <<torture does not work in the long run, ... the Abu Ghraib scandal
> ``the biggest mistake we made in the war.``>>
>
> despre cacofonia radiofonica:
> <<Only in America can you make that much money crying&#8230;I mean,
> you know, what [do] I think about Rush Limbaugh?
> Well, I think he makes hundreds of millions of dollars being able to
> talk on the radio.>>
>
> despre suportul sau fatza de Presedintele USA:
>
> The Republican senator also signaled his support for Mr. Obama, who he
> said ``has a plate full of unimaginable problems.``:
> <<Do I want some of his policies to fail? You better believe it.>>
> <<Do I want him to fail? No. Because he`s my commander-in-chief.>>
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/10/01/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5356087.shtml
>
>

La 2009-10-03 19:16:57, Mos Grigore a scris:

> Irelevant Shehe.............SELECTZIUNI.......pe linga ca nu intzeleg
> ideia postarii asteia.........
==========
nu era pentru tine ...
pentru tine il am pe asta:

Palin, Limbaugh, Beck &#8230; now it`s Republicans seeing the downside.
Some moderate conservatives see danger in the vociferous right, especially among broadcast pot-stirrers. They want to advance the GOP by changing the tone.

http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/10/03/palin-limbaugh-beck-%E2%80%A6-now-it%E2%80%99s-republicans-seeing-the-downside/

La 2009-10-03 17:31:09, Seherezada a scris:

> unii republicani simt ca e momentul sa se disocieze de strigatele
> Clubului Limbo ... O`Reilly etc ...
>
> De exemplu ... senatorul republican Lindsey Graham....
>
> sustine ca :
> <<torture does not work in the long run, ... the Abu Ghraib scandal
> ``the biggest mistake we made in the war.``>>
>
> despre cacofonia radiofonica:
> <<Only in America can you make that much money crying&#8230;I mean,
> you know, what [do] I think about Rush Limbaugh?
> Well, I think he makes hundreds of millions of dollars being able to
> talk on the radio.>>
>
> despre suportul sau fatza de Presedintele USA:
>
> The Republican senator also signaled his support for Mr. Obama, who he
> said ``has a plate full of unimaginable problems.``:
> <<Do I want some of his policies to fail? You better believe it.>>
> <<Do I want him to fail? No. Because he`s my commander-in-chief.>>
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/10/01/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5356087.shtml
>


(CBS)Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham Thursday blamed the lack of civility in today's political discourse on voters' willingness to send confrontational representatives to Washington as well as the 24-hour news cycle, talk radio and organizations like MoveOn.org.

"Can you imagine writing the Constitution today?" Graham said during a conversation with Jeffrey Goldberg at The First Draft of History, a conference in Washington, D.C. produced by The Atlantic, the Newseum and The Aspen Institute. He speculated that Fox News host Bill O'Reilly would complain that "Ben Franklin [is] giving in on something."

Asked what he thinks of another Fox News personality, Glenn Beck, Graham replied, "Only in America can you make that much money crying."

He said Beck is "not aligned with any party as far as I can tell. He's aligned with cynicism. And there's always been a market for cynicism."

"But we became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers," he added.

Graham addressed a variety of topics during the discussion, including John McCain's loss in the 2008 election. Graham, a close ally of McCain, had been a central figure in his campaign. He said that the collapse of the economy had been "game, set and match," essentially guaranteeing that then-Senator Barack Obama would win the election.

Graham lauded Mr. Obama for energizing young people and also engaging Hispanic voters, which he said Republicans had turned off with rhetoric on immigration "coming out of certain quarters of our party."

He said Mr. Obama had passed the "ready to be commander-in-chief test" during the debates and that the Democrat had been helped by the unpopularity of then-President Bush and his policies. "The Republican label was very much tainted," Graham said.

The senator suggested his party is set for a comeback, however, thanks to Democrats' performance since the president took office.

"We're back in the game because they're screwing up," he said. "It's nothing we've done." Graham pointed to the way Democrats are "playing to stereotypes on spending" and other issues, and said "it looks like 2010 could be good," a reference to the midterm elections.

Asked if former President Jimmy Carter was right in his assessment that much of the criticism of President Obama is rooted in racism, Graham said, "I don't think so."

"There [are] people in this country that are having a hard time reconciling the fact that we have a black president," he acknowledged.

But Graham said that many of the critics of the president would applaud Alan Keyes, the conservative African-American politician, which he pointed to as evidence that their criticism was rooted in ideology, not race.

Asked how he deals with fringe elements in his party, Graham said, "I go to a town hall meeting and say 'you're crazy' - in a respectful way." He said the so-called "birthers," who doubt that Mr. Obama was born in the United States, fall into that catergory.

Graham also said that torture does not work in the long run, calling the Abu Ghraib scandal "the biggest mistake we made in the war."

"The way you beat this enemy is you show differences at every moment," he said, despite the fact that "when you're trying to apply the Geneva Convention to al qaeda, people look at you like you're from the moon," since you're applying a standard to them that they would not apply to you.

Graham lamented the state of the Afghan government but suggested that America had no choice but to make the best of the situation. He said the answer to the question "are we going to let the Taliban come back" has to be "a definitive no."

"No matter how bad the Karzai government has been, and no matter how bad they will be in the future, it is not in our national interest" to let the Taliban regain a foothold in Afghanistan, he said.

Graham also said that Mr. Obama's number one goal has to be keeping Iran from attaining nuclear weapons.

"We're about to allow for the first time in modern history irrational people to have weapons of mass destruction," he said. "And that is not an acceptable outcome to me."

The Republican senator also signaled his support for Mr. Obama, who he said "has a plate full of unimaginable problems."

"Do I want some of his policies to fail? You better believe it," he said. "Do I want him to fail? No. Because he's my commander-in-chief."

Sehe,
fii barbata! Nu te apuca sa cut and paste!
P.S.
1. moveon.org este organizatia comuista poponista pedofilista care i-asprijint pe Kerry ketch-up, Hillara si Barack Hussein Obama.
2. Cum cred ca poti silabisi si singura, Lindsey Graham s-a referit la Glenn Beck si nu la Rush Limbaugh.
3. Lindsey Graham este acela care, din partea Camerei, a prezentat actul de acuzare pentru impreachementul lui Bill Clinton.
4. Daca doresti sa-ti exprimi opinia, nu falsifica realitatea in scopul justificarii opiniei.
5. Te pomenesti ca esti suparata pe Glenn Beck si Bill O'Reilley deoarece au scos la lumina scam'ul numit ACORN. Ma intreb daca nu esti si tu o activista cu corn.

La 2009-10-03 22:42:28, Ion Caramache a scris:
> Sehe,
> fii barbata! Nu te apuca sa cut and paste!
> P.S.
> 1. moveon.org este organizatia comuista poponista pedofilista care
> i-asprijint pe Kerry ketch-up, Hillara si Barack Hussein Obama.
> 2. Cum cred ca poti silabisi si singura, Lindsey Graham s-a referit la
> Glenn Beck si nu la Rush Limbaugh.
> 3. Lindsey Graham este acela care, din partea Camerei, a prezentat
> actul de acuzare pentru impreachementul lui Bill Clinton.
> 4. Daca doresti sa-ti exprimi opinia, nu falsifica realitatea in
> scopul justificarii opiniei.
> 5. Te pomenesti ca esti suparata pe Glenn Beck si Bill O'Reilley
> deoarece au scos la lumina scam'ul numit ACORN. Ma intreb daca nu
> esti si tu o activista cu corn.
=================
iar tu, Caramelo, inceteaza sa mai fi o tzatza birfitoare !!

1. nu ma intereseaza pe mine nici organizatii, nici partide.
Nu am votat nici cu Gore nici cu Kerry, ... l-am votat pe Bush ca sa nu iasa ei,
in schimb am votat cu nesaratul de Clinton ...
dar de placut ..., mi-au placut Reagan si Obama !!

du-te invirtindu-te cu expresii care ies din mintea ta <<comuista poponista pedofilista>> ... ca pe mine nu ma impresionezi cu ele !

2. silabiseste TU, ... dar cu atentie !
Graham a zis si despre Beck si despre O`Reilly, ... da in special s-a referit la Rush Limbou !
Astea sint cuvintele lui:
<<Only in America can you make that much money crying ... I mean, you know, what [do] I think about Rush Limbaugh ? Well, I think he makes hundreds of millions of dollars being able to talk on the radio.>>
Nu ma crezi ?? Iata articolul, si video:
http://firstdraftofhistory.theatlantic.com/analysis/graham_the_loyal_opposition.php

3. inainte de a acuza pe cineva de falsificare si de cut/paste ... mai informeaza-te, ... ca esti deja mai navleg decit grosan in aceasta privintza !

4. so ?

5. nu ma intereseaza nici ACORN, nici activismul tau ...
nu-mi plac Limbou, Beck, O`reilly, Palinka ... pentru ca sint niste papagali cretini si niste anti-americani.

La 2009-10-03 23:49:16, Seherezada a scris:

> La 2009-10-03 22:42:28, Ion Caramache a scris:
> > Sehe,
> > fii barbata! Nu te apuca sa cut and paste!
> > P.S.
> > 1. moveon.org este organizatia comuista poponista pedofilista care
> > i-asprijint pe Kerry ketch-up, Hillara si Barack Hussein Obama.
> > 2. Cum cred ca poti silabisi si singura, Lindsey Graham s-a referit la
> > Glenn Beck si nu la Rush Limbaugh.
> > 3. Lindsey Graham este acela care, din partea Camerei, a prezentat
> > actul de acuzare pentru impreachementul lui Bill Clinton.
> > 4. Daca doresti sa-ti exprimi opinia, nu falsifica realitatea in
> > scopul justificarii opiniei.
> > 5. Te pomenesti ca esti suparata pe Glenn Beck si Bill O'Reilley
> > deoarece au scos la lumina scam'ul numit ACORN. Ma intreb daca nu
> > esti si tu o activista cu corn.
> =================
> iar tu, Caramelo, inceteaza sa mai fi o tzatza birfitoare !!
>
> 1. nu ma intereseaza pe mine nici organizatii, nici partide.
> Nu am votat nici cu Gore nici cu Kerry, ... l-am votat pe Bush ca sa
> nu iasa ei,
> in schimb am votat cu nesaratul de Clinton ...
> dar de placut ..., mi-au placut Reagan si Obama !!
>
> du-te invirtindu-te cu expresii care ies din mintea ta <<comuista
> poponista pedofilista>> ... ca pe mine nu ma impresionezi cu ele !
>
> 2. silabiseste TU, ... dar cu atentie !
> Graham a zis si despre Beck si despre O`Reilly, ... da in special s-a
> referit la Rush Limbou !
> Astea sint cuvintele lui:
> <<Only in America can you make that much money crying ... I mean, you
> know, what [do] I think about Rush Limbaugh ? Well, I think he makes
> hundreds of millions of dollars being able to talk on the radio.>>
> Nu ma crezi ?? Iata articolul, si video:
> http://firstdraftofhistory.theatlantic.com/analysis/graham_the_loyal_opposition.php
>
> 3. inainte de a acuza pe cineva de falsificare si de cut/paste ...
> mai informeaza-te, ... ca esti deja mai navleg decit grosan in
> aceasta privintza !
>
> 4. so ?
>
> 5. nu ma intereseaza nici ACORN, nici activismul tau ...
> nu-mi plac Limbou, Beck, O`reilly, Palinka ... pentru ca sint niste
> papagali cretini si niste anti-americani.
>
>
Sehe, stai blinda!
Tu cu minuta ta ai scris:

<<<< <<Only in America can you make that much money crying&#8230;I mean,
> you know, what [do] I think about Rush Limbaugh?
> Well, I think he makes hundreds of millions of dollars being able to
> talk on the radio.>>
,,,,,,

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/10/01/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5356087.shtm >>>

Or, la site-ul la care te-ai referit scrie clar:

<<<< Asked what he thinks of another Fox News personality, Glenn Beck, Graham replied, "Only in America can you make that much money crying."

He said Beck is "not aligned with any party as far as I can tell. He's aligned with cynicism. And there's always been a market for cynicism."
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/10/01/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5356087.sht >>>

Daca Beck si Limbaugh sunt una si aceeasi persoana, atunci tu esti papeasa de la Roma Haruna lui Rashid nepoata lui unu dintre cei patruzeci de hoti pupa-i-ar Ali Baba pe toti.

Acuma, este interesant de aflat cine a mintit atunci cind a difuzat chestia:
http://firstdraftofhistory.theatlantic.com/analysis/graham_the_loyal_opposition.php

ori

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/10/01/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5356087.sht

Ceva pute acilea prin presa americana......
Nu uita insa ca, initial, tu ai dat drept sursa CBS-ul si acum ai schimbat-o
cu theatlantic.com. Nu m-as mira ca ambele surse sa fie precum Scanteia pravdei ori Pravda scanteii - avind in vedere ca CBS-ul l-a avut pe Dan Rather si il are pe David Letterman......

La 2009-10-04 01:08:41, Ion Caramache a scris:

> Acuma, este interesant de aflat cine a mintit atunci cind a difuzat
> chestia:
> http://firstdraftofhistory.theatlantic.com/analysis/graham_the_loyal_opposition.php
> ori
> http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/10/01/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5356087.sht
>
> Ceva pute acilea prin presa americana......
> Nu uita insa ca, initial, tu ai dat drept sursa CBS-ul si acum ai
> schimbat-o
> cu theatlantic.com. Nu m-as mira ca ambele surse sa fie precum
> Scanteia pravdei ori Pravda scanteii - avind in vedere ca CBS-ul l-a
> avut pe Dan Rather si il are pe David Letterman......
===============
tu chiar aiurezi ???
eu nu am schimbat nimic si nimeni NU minte ...
tu incerci cu disperare sa iesi BASMA curata, ca sa nu pari navleg ..., dar degeaba !

diverse articole din diverse ziare se refera la diverse parti din speech`ul lui Graham.
Eu am dat informatii complete si am citat nu articolul, ... ci am citat EXACT vorbele lui L.Graham (ca asta e important !)

Am fost draguta si am dat si un link la unul din sutele de articole ...
ca doar nu era sa dau 100 de link`uri ...

In schimb tu, Caramelo, ... inainte sa ma fi acuzat pe mine de ``falsitati`` ...
trebuia sa verifici pe google ``Lindsey Graham about Limbaugh``, ...
fiindca IMPORTANT este ceea ce a spus omu` ... nu ce scrie un articol sau altul ...

te-ai facut de kkaO, ...

La 2009-10-04 02:17:02, Seherezada a scris:

> La 2009-10-04 01:08:41, Ion Caramache a scris:
>
> > Acuma, este interesant de aflat cine a mintit atunci cind a difuzat
> > chestia:
> > http://firstdraftofhistory.theatlantic.com/analysis/graham_the_loyal_opposition.php
> > ori
> > http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/10/01/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5356087.sht
> >
> > Ceva pute acilea prin presa americana......
> > Nu uita insa ca, initial, tu ai dat drept sursa CBS-ul si acum ai
> > schimbat-o
> > cu theatlantic.com. Nu m-as mira ca ambele surse sa fie precum
> > Scanteia pravdei ori Pravda scanteii - avind in vedere ca CBS-ul l-a
> > avut pe Dan Rather si il are pe David Letterman......
> ===============
> tu chiar aiurezi ???
> eu nu am schimbat nimic si nimeni NU minte ...
> tu incerci cu disperare sa iesi BASMA curata, ca sa nu pari navleg
> ..., dar degeaba !
>
> diverse articole din diverse ziare se refera la diverse parti din
> speech`ul lui Graham.
> Eu am dat informatii complete si am citat nu articolul, ... ci am
> citat EXACT vorbele lui L.Graham (ca asta e important !)
>
> Am fost draguta si am dat si un link la unul din sutele de articole
> ...
> ca doar nu era sa dau 100 de link`uri ...
>
> In schimb tu, Caramelo, ... inainte sa ma fi acuzat pe mine de
> ``falsitati`` ...
> trebuia sa verifici pe google ``Lindsey Graham about Limbaugh``, ...
> fiindca IMPORTANT este ceea ce a spus omu` ... nu ce scrie un articol
> sau altul ...
>
> te-ai facut de kkaO, ...
>
Shehe, nu fi isterica, si nici nu fi o Giosana! Tui ai dat link-ul la CBS, eu acolo m-am dus! Te pomenesti ca acum vii cu aceleasi argumente precum Giosan. De ce sa dau eu o gugaleala daca aveam incredere pina acum in tine la gateala?
Vrei sa-mi fac mea culpa? Ui-te mi-o fac, si te asigur ca voi verifica orice rahat de tine semnat. Multumita?

La 2009-10-04 06:56:37, Ion Caramache a scris:

> Shehe, nu fi isterica, si nici nu fi o Giosana! Tui ai dat link-ul la
> CBS, eu acolo m-am dus! Te pomenesti ca acum vii cu aceleasi
> argumente precum Giosan. De ce sa dau eu o gugaleala daca aveam
> incredere pina acum in tine la gateala?
> Vrei sa-mi fac mea culpa? Ui-te mi-o fac, si te asigur ca voi verifica
> orice rahat de tine semnat. Multumita?
===========
Caramelo, las-O balta , ... ca basmaua-i tot patata.

Daca precum zici ... aveai <<incredere in mine>>, ... ti-ai fi zis:
daca Sehe a zis ca Graham l-a atacat specificamente pe Limbou ... apai atunci ASA este !! (asta inseamna a avea incredere !)

iar daca erai mai destept, ... ai fi stiut ca Sehe nu si-ar permite sa dea un citat ne-adevarat, ... macar daca ar fi pentru motivul ca ...
pe forumul asta exista neOconi mult mai feroci ca tine ...,
care stau la pinda sa-si infinga coltii in toate comentariile mele !!

Insa nu acesta e motivul ... ci faptul ca e mult mai simplu sa dai citate exacte !
altminteri ...,
iti accept ``mea culpa`` si ... n-ai decit sa verifici toate rahaturile din lume.