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2008-09-09
Evreu-rus din Rusia (...@yahoo.com, IP: 89.47.59...)
2008-09-09 01:07
McCain este un om ingrat, nerecunoscator, care nu ar merita nici macar sa spele holurile Casei Albe

Pe data de 26 octombrie, 1967, vietnamezul Mai Van On l-a descoperit pe McCain, pe atunci locotenent comandor, intr-un lac, incurcat in propia sa parasuta, dupa ce s-a ejectat din avionul sau care fusese lovit de o racheta.
Dovedint o compasiune rar intalnita intr-un razboi in care vietnamezii erau ucisi de bombardamentele avioanelor americane , vietnamezul l-a scos pe McCain la suprafata si cu ajutorul vecinilor sai, l-a tras afara din lac. Pur si simplu viteazului vietnamez nu i-a pasat ca ranitul era american, inamic, a vazut inainte de toate in el o fiinta umana care necesita ajutor urgent si nu putea fi abandonata ca pe o masea stricata. Un gest exceptional, unde un taran a carui patria era devastata de invadatori brutali si salbatici, a devenit erou, salvand tocmai viata unuia dintre acei barbari, care putea sa ii otraveasca pamantul, sa ii demoleze locuinta, sa ii ucida familia, sa ii renege dreptul de a trai.
Cum a reactionat, peste ani, McCain? Precum un ingrat, un om de nimic ce este. In 1996, la Hanoi, McCain s-a intalnit cu dl On si i-a multumit ptr admirabilul gest facut in urma cu 3 decenii.
3 ani dupa intalnire, McCain si-a publicat autobiografia, unde nu a mentionat nici un cuvintel despre salvatorul sau, On.
McCain putea fi mort daca nu dadea dl ON peste el. Putea sa nu se mai intoarca la familia sa, daca vietnamezul nu-i intindea o mana de ajutor neasteptata. Si nu mai intra acum in cursa electorala, nu mai provoca inutil si contraproductiv Rusia, nu se mai dadea in stamba, pozand intr-un erou de razboi dur precum un Rambo stafidit. Si bine ar mai fi fost ptr noi, toti ceilalti.

Arcturus (...@gmail.com, IP: 24.82.154...)
2008-09-09 01:30
Re: nici macar pilot bun nu era, cica a pierdut 5 avioane

McCain lost five U.S. Navy aircraft

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_mccain_lost_five_u.htm

Navy pilot John Sidney McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, McCain III would have never been allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.

His father John S. "Junior" McCain was commander of U.S. forces in Europe later becoming commander of American forces in Vietnam while McCain III was being held prisoner of war. McCain III's grandfather John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945.

During his relative short stunt on flight status, McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat.

Robert Timberg, author of The Nightingale's Song, a book about Annapolis graduates and their tours in Vietnam, wrote that McCain "learned to fly at Pensacola, though his performance was below par, at best good enough to get by. He liked flying, but didn't love it."

McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom.

McCain's second crash occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. "Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula," Timberg wrote, "he took out some power lines [reminiscent of the 1998 incident in which a Marine Corps jet sliced through the cables of a gondola at an Italian ski resort, killing 20] which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral."

McCain's third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game.

Timberg reported that McCain radioed, "I've got a flameout" and went through standard relight procedures three times before ejecting at one thousand feet. McCain landed on a deserted beach moments before the plane slammed into a clump of trees.

McCain's fourth aircraft loss occurred July 29, 1967, soon after he was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While seated in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting his turn for takeoff, an accidently fired rocket slammed into McCain's plane. He escaped from the burning aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the ship.

McCain's fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when McCain's A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. McCain ejected from the plane breaking both arms and a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi.

After being drug from the lake, a mob gathered around McCain, spit on him, kicked him and stripped him of his clothing. He was bayoneted in his left foot and his shoulder crushed by a rifle butt. He was then transported to the Hoa Lo Prison, also known as the Hanoi Hilton.

After being periodically slapped around for "three or four days" by his captors who wanted military information, McCain called for an officer on his fourth day of captivity. He told the officer, "O.K., I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital." -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain.

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant." Page 193-194, Faith of My Fathers by John McCain.

When the communist learned that McCain's father was Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the Pacific, he was rushed to Gai Lam military hospital (U.S. government documents), a medical facility normally unavailable for U.S. POWs.

The communist Vietnamese figured, because POW McCain's father was of such high military rank, that he was of royalty or the governing circle. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince."

For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.

"McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat," explains Bill Bell, a veteran of Vietnam and former chief of the U.S. Office for POW/MIA Affairs -- the first official U.S. representative in Vietnam since the 1973 fall of Saigon. "Since McCain got 28 medals," Bell continues, "that equals out to about a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than 7,000 hours in combat and I can tell you that there were times and situations where I'm sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down."

For years, McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his failures as a pilot and collaborations with the enemy by exaggerating his military service and lying about his feats of heroism.

McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America's POW-hero presidential candidate.



La 2008-09-09 01:07:15, Evreu-rus a scris:

> Pe data de 26 octombrie, 1967, vietnamezul Mai Van On l-a descoperit
> pe McCain, pe atunci locotenent comandor, intr-un lac, incurcat in
> propia sa parasuta, dupa ce s-a ejectat din avionul sau care fusese
> lovit de o racheta.
> Dovedint o compasiune rar intalnita intr-un razboi in care vietnamezii
> erau ucisi de bombardamentele avioanelor americane , vietnamezul l-a
> scos pe McCain la suprafata si cu ajutorul vecinilor sai, l-a tras
> afara din lac. Pur si simplu viteazului vietnamez nu i-a pasat ca
> ranitul era american, inamic, a vazut inainte de toate in el o fiinta
> umana care necesita ajutor urgent si nu putea fi abandonata ca pe o
> masea stricata. Un gest exceptional, unde un taran a carui patria era
> devastata de invadatori brutali si salbatici, a devenit erou, salvand
> tocmai viata unuia dintre acei barbari, care putea sa ii otraveasca
> pamantul, sa ii demoleze locuinta, sa ii ucida familia, sa ii renege
> dreptul de a trai.
> Cum a reactionat, peste ani, McCain? Precum un ingrat, un om de nimic
> ce este. In 1996, la Hanoi, McCain s-a intalnit cu dl On si i-a
> multumit ptr admirabilul gest facut in urma cu 3 decenii.
> 3 ani dupa intalnire, McCain si-a publicat autobiografia, unde nu a
> mentionat nici un cuvintel despre salvatorul sau, On.
> McCain putea fi mort daca nu dadea dl ON peste el. Putea sa nu se mai
> intoarca la familia sa, daca vietnamezul nu-i intindea o mana de
> ajutor neasteptata. Si nu mai intra acum in cursa electorala, nu mai
> provoca inutil si contraproductiv Rusia, nu se mai dadea in stamba,
> pozand intr-un erou de razboi dur precum un Rambo stafidit. Si bine
> ar mai fi fost ptr noi, toti ceilalti.
>

Conan___the___Barbarian din Ghermanistan (...@operamail.com, IP: 80.67.17...)
2008-09-09 02:12
Re: McCain este un om ingrat, nerecunoscator, care nu ar merita nici macar sa spele holurile Casei A

"Pe care nu-l lasi sa moara... "
Asa a patzit si Ioan ANTONESCU, uite cum il murdaresc javrele de securisti emigratzi in Israel acum. Normal ca-l injura, Antonescu le-a impuscat bunicii NKVDisti din Armata Sovietica :-) .......

La 2008-09-09 01:07:15, Evreu-rus a scris:

> Pe data de 26 octombrie, 1967, vietnamezul Mai Van On l-a descoperit
> pe McCain, pe atunci locotenent comandor, intr-un lac, incurcat in
> propia sa parasuta, dupa ce s-a ejectat din avionul sau care fusese
> lovit de o racheta. ......

Conan___the___Barbarian din Ghermanistan (...@operamail.com, IP: 80.67.17...)
2008-09-09 02:21
Re: ...cica a pierdut 5 avioane/ L-or fi catapultat de greatza si s-au sinucis. #5 lives! :-)

evreu mandru din israel din Israel (...@yahoo.com, IP: 84.109.85...)
2008-09-09 10:08
Re: Intr-adevar....

rusine sa-ti fie McCain, i-ai multumit dupa 30 de ani, daca era Ahmed in locul tau o facea pe nicevo neznayou...

La 2008-09-09 01:07:15, Evreu-rus a scris:

In 1996, la Hanoi, McCain s-a intalnit cu dl On si i-a
> multumit ptr admirabilul gest facut in urma cu 3 decenii.

evreu mandru din israel din Israel (...@yahoo.com, IP: 84.109.85...)
2008-09-09 10:12
Re: Si unde e scris...

ca numai piloti buni pot candida la presidentie? Basescu era considerat marinar bun?

La 2008-09-09 01:30:06, Arcturus a scris:

> McCain lost five U.S. Navy aircraft
>
> http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_mccain_lost_five_u.htm
>
> Navy pilot John Sidney McCain III should have never been allowed to
> graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average
> student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been
> famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, McCain III would have never been
> allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.
>
> His father John S. "Junior" McCain was commander of U.S. forces in
> Europe later becoming commander of American forces in Vietnam while
> McCain III was being held prisoner of war. McCain III's grandfather
> John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa
> in 1945.
>
> During his relative short stunt on flight status, McCain III lost five
> U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat.
>
> Robert Timberg, author of The Nightingale's Song, a book about
> Annapolis graduates and their tours in Vietnam, wrote that McCain
> "learned to fly at Pensacola, though his performance was below par,
> at best good enough to get by. He liked flying, but didn't love it."
>
>
> McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus
> Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by
> the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom.
>
> McCain's second crash occurred while he was deployed in the
> Mediterranean. "Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula," Timberg
> wrote, "he took out some power lines [reminiscent of the 1998
> incident in which a Marine Corps jet sliced through the cables of a
> gondola at an Italian ski resort, killing 20] which led to a spate of
> newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of
> an admiral."
>
> McCain's third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying
> a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game.
>
> Timberg reported that McCain radioed, "I've got a flameout" and went
> through standard relight procedures three times before ejecting at
> one thousand feet. McCain landed on a deserted beach moments before
> the plane slammed into a clump of trees.
>
> McCain's fourth aircraft loss occurred July 29, 1967, soon after he
> was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While
> seated in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting his turn for takeoff,
> an accidently fired rocket slammed into McCain's plane. He escaped
> from the burning aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed
> 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink
> the ship.
>
> McCain's fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North
> Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when McCain's A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by
> a surface-to-air missile. McCain ejected from the plane breaking both
> arms and a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc
> Bach Lake near Hanoi.
>
> After being drug from the lake, a mob gathered around McCain, spit on
> him, kicked him and stripped him of his clothing. He was bayoneted in
> his left foot and his shoulder crushed by a rifle butt. He was then
> transported to the Hoa Lo Prison, also known as the Hanoi Hilton.
>
> After being periodically slapped around for "three or four days" by
> his captors who wanted military information, McCain called for an
> officer on his fourth day of captivity. He told the officer, "O.K.,
> I'll give you military information if you will take me to the
> hospital." -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written
> by former POW John McCain.
>
> "Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to
> terminate my medical treatment if I [McCain] did not cooperate.
> Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and
> confirmed that my target had been the power plant." Page 193-194,
> Faith of My Fathers by John McCain.
>
> When the communist learned that McCain's father was Admiral John S.
> McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the
> Pacific, he was rushed to Gai Lam military hospital (U.S. government
> documents), a medical facility normally unavailable for U.S. POWs.
>
> The communist Vietnamese figured, because POW McCain's father was of
> such high military rank, that he was of royalty or the governing
> circle. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the
> crown prince."
>
> For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory),
> the U.S. Navy awarded McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for
> Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two
> Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service
> medals.
>
> "McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat," explains Bill Bell, a veteran
> of Vietnam and former chief of the U.S. Office for POW/MIA Affairs --
> the first official U.S. representative in Vietnam since the 1973 fall
> of Saigon. "Since McCain got 28 medals," Bell continues, "that equals
> out to about a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat.
> There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than
> 7,000 hours in combat and I can tell you that there were times and
> situations where I'm sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good
> to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that
> number of medals for not being shot down."
>
> For years, McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an
> overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned
> Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his
> failures as a pilot and collaborations with the enemy by exaggerating
> his military service and lying about his feats of heroism.
>
> McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America's POW-hero
> presidential candidate.
>
>
>
> La 2008-09-09 01:07:15, Evreu-rus a scris:
>
> > Pe data de 26 octombrie, 1967, vietnamezul Mai Van On l-a descoperit
> > pe McCain, pe atunci locotenent comandor, intr-un lac, incurcat in
> > propia sa parasuta, dupa ce s-a ejectat din avionul sau care fusese
> > lovit de o racheta.
> > Dovedint o compasiune rar intalnita intr-un razboi in care vietnamezii
> > erau ucisi de bombardamentele avioanelor americane , vietnamezul l-a
> > scos pe McCain la suprafata si cu ajutorul vecinilor sai, l-a tras
> > afara din lac. Pur si simplu viteazului vietnamez nu i-a pasat ca
> > ranitul era american, inamic, a vazut inainte de toate in el o fiinta
> > umana care necesita ajutor urgent si nu putea fi abandonata ca pe o
> > masea stricata. Un gest exceptional, unde un taran a carui patria era
> > devastata de invadatori brutali si salbatici, a devenit erou, salvand
> > tocmai viata unuia dintre acei barbari, care putea sa ii otraveasca
> > pamantul, sa ii demoleze locuinta, sa ii ucida familia, sa ii renege
> > dreptul de a trai.
> > Cum a reactionat, peste ani, McCain? Precum un ingrat, un om de nimic
> > ce este. In 1996, la Hanoi, McCain s-a intalnit cu dl On si i-a
> > multumit ptr admirabilul gest facut in urma cu 3 decenii.
> > 3 ani dupa intalnire, McCain si-a publicat autobiografia, unde nu a
> > mentionat nici un cuvintel despre salvatorul sau, On.
> > McCain putea fi mort daca nu dadea dl ON peste el. Putea sa nu se mai
> > intoarca la familia sa, daca vietnamezul nu-i intindea o mana de
> > ajutor neasteptata. Si nu mai intra acum in cursa electorala, nu mai
> > provoca inutil si contraproductiv Rusia, nu se mai dadea in stamba,
> > pozand intr-un erou de razboi dur precum un Rambo stafidit. Si bine
> > ar mai fi fost ptr noi, toti ceilalti.
> >
>
>

evreu mandru din israel din Israel (...@yahoo.com, IP: 84.109.85...)
2008-09-09 10:22
Re: Criminalul Ion Antonescu...

a primit ce si-a meritat.
Propun ca filmuletzul cu executarea acestui criminal si asociatii sai, sa fie incadrat in lectiile de istorie in scoala romana.La fel si executarea lui Nicolae si Elena Ceausescu.

La 2008-09-09 02:12:38, Conan___the___Barbarian a scris:

> "Pe care nu-l lasi sa moara... "
> Asa a patzit si Ioan ANTONESCU, uite cum il murdaresc javrele de
> securisti emigratzi in Israel acum. Normal ca-l injura, Antonescu
> le-a impuscat bunicii NKVDisti din Armata Sovietica :-) .......
>
> La 2008-09-09 01:07:15, Evreu-rus a scris:
>
> > Pe data de 26 octombrie, 1967, vietnamezul Mai Van On l-a descoperit
> > pe McCain, pe atunci locotenent comandor, intr-un lac, incurcat in
> > propia sa parasuta, dupa ce s-a ejectat din avionul sau care fusese
> > lovit de o racheta. ......
>

jan dinu din Portland, USA (...@hotmail.com, IP: 4.242.186...)
2008-09-09 13:44
Re: McCain este un om ingrat, nerecunoscator, care nu ar merita nici macar sa spele holurile Casei A

La 2008-09-09 01:07:15, Evreu-rus a scris:

> Pe data de 26 octombrie, 1967, vietnamezul Mai Van On l-a descoperit
> pe McCain, pe atunci locotenent comandor, intr-un lac, incurcat in
> propia sa parasuta, dupa ce s-a ejectat din avionul sau care fusese
> lovit de o racheta.
> Dovedint o compasiune rar intalnita intr-un razboi in care vietnamezii
> erau ucisi de bombardamentele avioanelor americane , vietnamezul l-a
> scos pe McCain la suprafata si cu ajutorul vecinilor sai, l-a tras
> afara din lac. Pur si simplu viteazului vietnamez nu i-a pasat ca
> ranitul era american, inamic, a vazut inainte de toate in el o fiinta
> umana care necesita ajutor urgent si nu putea fi abandonata ca pe o
> masea stricata. Un gest exceptional, unde un taran a carui patria era
> devastata de invadatori brutali si salbatici, a devenit erou, salvand
> tocmai viata unuia dintre acei barbari, care putea sa ii otraveasca
> pamantul, sa ii demoleze locuinta, sa ii ucida familia, sa ii renege
> dreptul de a trai.
> Cum a reactionat, peste ani, McCain? Precum un ingrat, un om de nimic
> ce este. In 1996, la Hanoi, McCain s-a intalnit cu dl On si i-a
> multumit ptr admirabilul gest facut in urma cu 3 decenii.
> 3 ani dupa intalnire, McCain si-a publicat autobiografia, unde nu a
> mentionat nici un cuvintel despre salvatorul sau, On.
> McCain putea fi mort daca nu dadea dl ON peste el. Putea sa nu se mai
> intoarca la familia sa, daca vietnamezul nu-i intindea o mana de
> ajutor neasteptata. Si nu mai intra acum in cursa electorala, nu mai
> provoca inutil si contraproductiv Rusia, nu se mai dadea in stamba,
> pozand intr-un erou de razboi dur precum un Rambo stafidit. Si bine
> ar mai fi fost ptr noi, toti ceilalti.
>
=======================================================
Pote fi shi-un clip holocaust ..pentru amintire shi reeducare ..
la o alta generatzie ...ca ce-a fost va mai fi cum scrie in cartea sfinta !
jd


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