Externe

a.h.
2008-04-21 17:28:19

Va place Adamo?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cubyqw-wIMI

Hu Ciu Tzi
2008-04-21 17:32:03

Re: Va place Adamo? / NU!

La 2008-04-21 17:28:19, a.h. a scris:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cubyqw-wIMI
>

Ghita Bizonu'
2008-04-21 18:19:16

Re: roy, 2 tevi v-ati uita pe Cotidianul la cestia ce sa facem cu cainii

Dupa cum era de asteptat , unii hamitici faceau niste confuzii ciudate ....




La 2008-04-21 07:01:59, roy a scris:

> ... Ministerul Sanatatzii Palestinianan (versiunea Hamas - Gaza) a
> anuntzat ca a incetat serviciul ambulantzelor sanitare din lipsa de
> benzina.
>
> Asta face parte din planul Hamasului de a presa Egiptul, asa cum am
> scris mai jos.
>
> Insa din partea agentziei ONU din Gaza s-a transmis ca declaratzia se
> bazeaza pe fapte "neadevarate" (cu alte cuvinte minciuni) si ca in
> partea palestininana a punctului de frontiera Nahal Oz (unde s-a
> petrecut atacul in care au fost omoratzi doi israelieni care lucral la
> terminalul de benzina) exista cca 1 milion de litri de benzina pe care
> palestinienii nu i-au distribuit.
>

roy
2008-04-21 18:57:59

Re: aiurea!

Amicii tai din Hamas au anuntzat ca resping propunerile lui Carter, Carter s-a anuntzat dezamagit.

Mai ai si alte lozincii?
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La 2008-04-21 16:34:12, Aladin a scris:

> Mult hulitul carter, v-a adus un mesaj de pace. Ce puteti sa faceti
> cu el e talentul vostru, daca-l aveti. Mie teama ca asa cum cineva
> spunea ,ca hamasul nu va renunta la provocari pt.ca doar o stare de
> razboi fac banii sa curga, se pare ca nici la voi nu e altfel,iar
> suvoiul de bani ce curge e mult mai consistent.
>

Zenn
2008-04-21 19:05:56

Corpul unui copil palestinian gasit mutilat de settleri.

Body of 15 year old Palestinian boy found mutilated in Israeli settlement

http://www.palsolidarity.org/main/2008/04/18/body-of-15-year-old-palestinian-boy-found-mutilated-in-israeli-settlement/

roy
2008-04-21 19:08:02

Re: roy, 2 tevi v-ati uita pe Cotidianul la cestia ce sa facem cu cainii

Nu este clar ce vrei sa spui... dezvolta-tzi ideea, trebuie sa fie interesanta.
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La 2008-04-21 18:19:16, Ghita Bizonu' a scris:

> Dupa cum era de asteptat , unii hamitici faceau niste confuzii ciudate
> ....
>
>
>
>
> La 2008-04-21 07:01:59, roy a scris:
>
> > ... Ministerul Sanatatzii Palestinianan (versiunea Hamas - Gaza) a
> > anuntzat ca a incetat serviciul ambulantzelor sanitare din lipsa de
> > benzina.
> >
> > Asta face parte din planul Hamasului de a presa Egiptul, asa cum am
> > scris mai jos.
> >
> > Insa din partea agentziei ONU din Gaza s-a transmis ca declaratzia se
> > bazeaza pe fapte "neadevarate" (cu alte cuvinte minciuni) si ca in
> > partea palestininana a punctului de frontiera Nahal Oz (unde s-a
> > petrecut atacul in care au fost omoratzi doi israelieni care lucral la
> > terminalul de benzina) exista cca 1 milion de litri de benzina pe care
> > palestinienii nu i-au distribuit.
> >
>
>

Zenn
2008-04-21 19:11:38

Pentru unii care cred ca Istoria ME nu a ajuns cam pe toate meridianele...

Deir Yassin Remembered

Early in the morning of April 9, 1948, commandos of the Irgun (headed by Menachem Begin) and the Stern Gang attacked Deir Yassin, a village with about 750 Palestinian residents. The village lay outside of the area to be assigned by the United Nations to the Jewish State; it had a peaceful reputation. But it was located on high ground in the corridor between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Deir Yassin was slated for occupation under Plan Dalet and the mainstream Jewish defense force, the Haganah, authorized the irregular terrorist forces of the Irgun and the Stern Gang to perform the takeover.

In all over 100 men, women, and children were systematically murdered. Fifty-three orphaned children were literally dumped along the wall of the Old City, where they were found by Miss Hind Husseini and brought behind the American Colony Hotel to her home, which was to become the Dar El-Tifl El-Arabi orphanage. Visit http://www.deiryassin.org/
Runtime 32 Minutes


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14676.htm

Zenn
2008-04-21 19:14:07

Asta ca nu mai amintim de King David Hotel, USS Liberty, etc, etc...

La 2008-04-21 19:11:38, Zenn a scris:

> Deir Yassin Remembered
>
> Early in the morning of April 9, 1948, commandos of the Irgun (headed
> by Menachem Begin) and the Stern Gang attacked Deir Yassin, a village
> with about 750 Palestinian residents. The village lay outside of the
> area to be assigned by the United Nations to the Jewish State; it had
> a peaceful reputation. But it was located on high ground in the
> corridor between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Deir Yassin was slated for
> occupation under Plan Dalet and the mainstream Jewish defense force,
> the Haganah, authorized the irregular terrorist forces of the Irgun
> and the Stern Gang to perform the takeover.
>
> In all over 100 men, women, and children were systematically murdered.
> Fifty-three orphaned children were literally dumped along the wall of
> the Old City, where they were found by Miss Hind Husseini and brought
> behind the American Colony Hotel to her home, which was to become the
> Dar El-Tifl El-Arabi orphanage. Visit http://www.deiryassin.org/
> Runtime 32 Minutes
>
>
> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14676.htm
>
>

dorinP
2008-04-21 19:15:36

Re: aiurea!

La 2008-04-21 18:57:59, roy a scris:

> Amicii tai din Hamas au anuntzat ca resping propunerile lui Carter,
> Carter s-a anuntzat dezamagit.
>
> Mai ai si alte lozincii?

De unde scoti domnule informatia asta? De la Megaphone?

Uite stirea de la Reuters.
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSL2177218720080421

Hamas says accepts Palestinian statehood
Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:27am EDT

DAMASCUS (Reuters) - Hamas accepts the establishment of a Palestinian state on land occupied by Israel in 1967 but would not recognize the Jewish state, Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal said on Monday.

Commenting on efforts by former U.S. President Jimmy Carter to persuade Hamas to back peace talks between Israel and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, Meshaal said Hamas would "respect Palestinian national will even if it was against our convictions".

Meshaal's remarks appeared in line with comments made by Carter in Jerusalem on Monday following talks in Damascus with the Hamas leader on Friday.

Zenn
2008-04-21 19:18:29

O lectura educativa (pentru unii): Noam Chomsky - Terrorists Wanted the World Over

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19429.htm

dorinP
2008-04-21 19:32:15

Re: aiurea!

La 2008-04-21 18:57:59, roy a scris:

> Amicii tai din Hamas au anuntzat ca resping propunerile lui Carter,
> Carter s-a anuntzat dezamagit.
>
> Mai ai si alte lozincii?
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ce spune Associated Press

Carter: Hamas is willing to accept Israel as its neighbor
By KARIN LAUB – 2 hours ago

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h1rJov5cRqOXTFSN-Rs6CzXo01uAD9069BLO2

nastratin123
2008-04-21 19:33:25

Re: trupe internationale ca in Kososvo

Israelul nu sa opus nici o data la un mandat ONU,au fost trupe internationale in Sinai.
Cand Sadat sau Naser nu-mi amintesc le-a spus sa plece si a inceput un razboi.


La 2008-04-21 13:12:56, Giuseppe Cocos a scris:

> .asta este singura solutie pentru Gaza....dar dupa cite stiu Israelul
> se opune trupelor straine in Gaza sau West Bank...adevarat ?
>
>
> La 2008-04-21 01:53:21, nastratin123 a scris:
>
> > in legatura cu ce spui despre Carter,exista un proverb din talcioc
> > care este pe aceasta masura cu Hamasul si" poate" ar fi auzit
> >
> > TRAINDO SPERANDO MURINDO CACANDO,cam asa poti sa speri
> >
> >
> > La 2008-04-21 01:36:46, Giuseppe Cocos a scris:
>
>

Ghita Bizonu'
2008-04-21 19:36:19

Re: roy, 2 tevi v-ati uita pe Cotidianul la cestia scuzele mele . nu-i opinia mea

dar au aparut inevitabilii cretini care sa faca paralela intre dorinta de a eutanasia cainii si programul final nazist.
Sczule mele, io nu fac confuzii din astea. Nu-s hamitic. Nu mi-o puneti in carca !

La 2008-04-21 18:19:16, Ghita Bizonu' a scris:

> Dupa cum era de asteptat , unii hamitici faceau niste confuzii ciudate
> ....
>
>
>
>
> La 2008-04-21 07:01:59, roy a scris:
>
> > ... Ministerul Sanatatzii Palestinianan (versiunea Hamas - Gaza) a
> > anuntzat ca a incetat serviciul ambulantzelor sanitare din lipsa de
> > benzina.
> >
> > Asta face parte din planul Hamasului de a presa Egiptul, asa cum am
> > scris mai jos.
> >
> > Insa din partea agentziei ONU din Gaza s-a transmis ca declaratzia se
> > bazeaza pe fapte "neadevarate" (cu alte cuvinte minciuni) si ca in
> > partea palestininana a punctului de frontiera Nahal Oz (unde s-a
> > petrecut atacul in care au fost omoratzi doi israelieni care lucral la
> > terminalul de benzina) exista cca 1 milion de litri de benzina pe care
> > palestinienii nu i-au distribuit.
> >
>
>

nastratin123
2008-04-21 19:37:40

Re: Corpul unui copil palestinian gasit mutilat de settleri.

Cand te saturi de copy si paste anunta in gura mare.


La 2008-04-21 19:05:56, Zenn a scris:

> Body of 15 year old Palestinian boy found mutilated in Israeli
> settlement
>
> http://www.palsolidarity.org/main/2008/04/18/body-of-15-year-old-palestinian-boy-found-mutilated-in-israeli-settlement/
>

nastratin123
2008-04-21 19:38:46

Re: O lectura educativa (pentru unii): Noam Chomsky - Terrorists Wanted the World Over

Iar ai uitat medicamentul?



La 2008-04-21 19:18:29, Zenn a scris:

> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19429.htm
>

nastratin123
2008-04-21 19:41:47

Re: Asta ca nu mai amintim de King David Hotel, USS Liberty, etc, etc...

Sti ceva tu o cautzi ,BINE A FACUT ISRAELUL ,GRESEALA A FOST CA AU LASAT SA SE INTOARCA ARAFAT SI CEILALTI TERORISTI,CRED CA SOLUTIA VA FI SA-I TRIMEATA INAPOI IN EGYPT SI JORDAN.



La 2008-04-21 19:14:07, Zenn a scris:

> La 2008-04-21 19:11:38, Zenn a scris:
>
> > Deir Yassin Remembered
> >
> > Early in the morning of April 9, 1948, commandos of the Irgun (headed
> > by Menachem Begin) and the Stern Gang attacked Deir Yassin, a village
> > with about 750 Palestinian residents. The village lay outside of the
> > area to be assigned by the United Nations to the Jewish State; it had
> > a peaceful reputation. But it was located on high ground in the
> > corridor between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Deir Yassin was slated for
> > occupation under Plan Dalet and the mainstream Jewish defense force,
> > the Haganah, authorized the irregular terrorist forces of the Irgun
> > and the Stern Gang to perform the takeover.
> >
> > In all over 100 men, women, and children were systematically murdered.
> > Fifty-three orphaned children were literally dumped along the wall of
> > the Old City, where they were found by Miss Hind Husseini and brought
> > behind the American Colony Hotel to her home, which was to become the
> > Dar El-Tifl El-Arabi orphanage. Visit http://www.deiryassin.org/
> > Runtime 32 Minutes
> >
> >
> > http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14676.htm
> >
> >
>
>

nastratin123
2008-04-21 19:43:23

Re: Pentru unii care cred ca Istoria ME nu a ajuns cam pe toate meridianele...

Cainele latra....................................israelul prospera bine merci.



La 2008-04-21 19:11:38, Zenn a scris:

> Deir Yassin Remembered
>
> Early in the morning of April 9, 1948, commandos of the Irgun (headed
> by Menachem Begin) and the Stern Gang attacked Deir Yassin, a village
> with about 750 Palestinian residents. The village lay outside of the
> area to be assigned by the United Nations to the Jewish State; it had
> a peaceful reputation. But it was located on high ground in the
> corridor between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Deir Yassin was slated for
> occupation under Plan Dalet and the mainstream Jewish defense force,
> the Haganah, authorized the irregular terrorist forces of the Irgun
> and the Stern Gang to perform the takeover.
>
> In all over 100 men, women, and children were systematically murdered.
> Fifty-three orphaned children were literally dumped along the wall of
> the Old City, where they were found by Miss Hind Husseini and brought
> behind the American Colony Hotel to her home, which was to become the
> Dar El-Tifl El-Arabi orphanage. Visit http://www.deiryassin.org/
> Runtime 32 Minutes
>
>
> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14676.htm
>
>

nastratin123
2008-04-21 19:44:46

Re: Corpul unui copil palestinian gasit mutilat de settleri.

Gasit de fratii tai sau e cumnatul tau medic legist care a gasit copilul.



La 2008-04-21 19:05:56, Zenn a scris:

> Body of 15 year old Palestinian boy found mutilated in Israeli
> settlement
>
> http://www.palsolidarity.org/main/2008/04/18/body-of-15-year-old-palestinian-boy-found-mutilated-in-israeli-settlement/
>

nastratin123
2008-04-21 19:51:10

Re: Corpul unui copil palestinian gasit mutilat de settleri.

Tandarica,povestea cu copii crestini omorati de evreii pentru sange pe care al intrebuintau pentru pasca ,e tot atat de interesanta ca si povestile tale pe forum ,cel putin credeam ca ma-i exista o speranta sa fi salvat ,am gresit ,boala ta leac nu are ,cred ca ar fi necesar sa te bage intro camera cu pereti de cauciuc.







La 2008-04-21 19:05:56, Zenn a scris:

> Body of 15 year old Palestinian boy found mutilated in Israeli
> settlement
>
> http://www.palsolidarity.org/main/2008/04/18/body-of-15-year-old-palestinian-boy-found-mutilated-in-israeli-settlement/
>

dorinP
2008-04-21 19:57:21

Re: aiurea?

La 2008-04-21 18:57:59, roy a scris:

> Amicii tai din Hamas au anuntzat ca resping propunerile lui Carter,
> Carter s-a anuntzat dezamagit.
>
> Mai ai si alte lozincii?
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Like gang warfare
By Gideon Levy
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/976462.html

On both sides of the fence locking in the Gaza Strip, there is a war of desperation going on. Hamas is fighting against the insufferable siege that the Gaza Strip has been under for many months, and the Israel Defense Forces is mostly preoccupied with avenging Hamas' actions. Both sides are busy with displays of power and retaliation. It was sufficient to hear last week the commander of an IDF company, which lost three of its men, who called on his troops to kill as many terrorists as possible and to destroy the area from which the attacks came, to understand that the differences between the two opposing sides are increasingly becoming distorted.

The ethical differences are also being blurred. For example, if the B'tselem report is correct, and the IDF has resumed using flechette tank shells, then killing is being done without distinction, precisely as Hamas does. Both sides avoid any dialogue with the other, Israel conducts the scandalous international boycott of Hamas and anyone who tries to end this unbearable cycle, such as former U.S. president Jimmy Carter, is immediately and shamefully condemned by Israel.

The balance between the two sides is far from equal. All the scare tactics of the Israeli defense establishment - the statements that Hamas is growing stronger, is acquiring arms and equipment and the (exaggerated) descriptions that it is organizing along the lines of Hezbollah - do not alter the unequivocal fact that a war of attrition is taking place in the south between a regular army, with nearly every weapon possible in its arsenal, and a primitive organization, with few arms and a ridiculous order of battle. This must not be forgotten. The combined attack Saturday at Kerem Shalom, which was both sophisticated and daring, does not alter the fact that the the balance of power is far from even. This is expressed, in part, in the numbers of dead: The Palestinians managed to killed three soldiers in an ambush near the border fence? In response, Israel killed 20 Palestinians soon after, including a reporter and several youths. This is how gang warfare is fought.
[...]

Giuseppe Cocos
2008-04-21 20:47:54

Re: S-a automutilat

ca sa-i puna pe ovrei intr-o sitatie proasta.......oricum era un viitor terorist si/sau antisemit

La 2008-04-21 19:05:56, Zenn a scris:

> Body of 15 year old Palestinian boy found mutilated in Israeli
> settlement
>
> http://www.palsolidarity.org/main/2008/04/18/body-of-15-year-old-palestinian-boy-found-mutilated-in-israeli-settlement/
>

alwis46
2008-04-21 20:56:53

Re: O lectura educativa (pentru unii): Noam Chomsky - Terrorists Wanted the World Over

Bai frate, Arici Pogonici ai incercat sa citesti ?
Dar Scufita Rosie ?
Schimba dom-le cartea aia, nu-l mai lua la "tauleta" toata ziua pe Chomsky, pai se poate sa te obsedeze tipul asta atat ?
E bine ca ai un fix, macar nu te balangani !

La 2008-04-21 19:18:29, Zenn a scris:

> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19429.htm
>

roy
2008-04-21 21:33:53

Re: Mda... Familia este convinsa ... insa...

In urma cu doua luni a fost gasita o fata palestiniana violata si ciopartzita aruncata langa o colonie evreiasca. Politzia a facut ancheta si in doua zile a pus mana pe faptas.

Era unul din famila ei, care a avut chef de ea, l-a refuzat si atunci a silut-o si i-a facut de petrecanie. Dupa care ca sa ascunda fapta, a aruncat cadavrul langa colonie.

Din fericire, familia a colaborat cu politzia si asa a ajuns politzia la el. Individul a recunoscut. Acum isi asteapta judecata.

Norocul lui ca l-au prins israelienii. Daca il prindea Hamasul il faceau praf in cateva secunde.
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La 2008-04-21 19:05:56, Zenn a scris:

> Body of 15 year old Palestinian boy found mutilated in Israeli
> settlement
>
> http://www.palsolidarity.org/main/2008/04/18/body-of-15-year-old-palestinian-boy-found-mutilated-in-israeli-settlement/
>

Zenn
2008-04-21 21:40:14

Carter Calls Gaza Blockade a Crime and Atrocity

By Jonathan Wright

18/04/08 "Reuters" -- -- -CAIRO - Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter called the blockade of Gaza a crime and an atrocity on Thursday and said U.S. attempts to undermine the Islamist movement Hamas had been counterproductive.

Speaking at the American University in Cairo after talks with Hamas leaders from Gaza, Carter said Palestinians in Gaza were being "starved to death", receiving fewer calories a day than people in the poorest parts of Africa.

"It’s an atrocity what is being perpetrated as punishment on the people in Gaza. it’s a crime… I think it is an abomination that this continues to go on," Carter said.

Israel has been blockading Gaza most of the time since Hamas took control of the impoverished coastal strip in June last year, allowing only basic supplies to enter.

Israel has not accepted Hamas proposals for a truce including an end to Hamas rocket attacks on Israel and to Israeli attacks on Hamas personnel in Gaza and the West Bank. Israeli officials say a truce would enable Hamas to rearm.

Carter said Israel and its ally the United States were trying to make the quality of life in Gaza markedly worse than in the West Bank, where the rival Fatah group is in control.

"I think politically speaking this has worked even to strengthen the popularity of Hamas and to the detriment of the popularity of Fatah," he added. The United States has been trying to achieve the opposite outcome.

"EXAMPLE TO BE EMULATED"

Carter, who helped make peace between Egypt and Israel while president in the 1970s, said the Hamas leaders he has met so far told him they would accept a peace agreement with Israel negotiated by Mahmoud Abbas — the Fatah leader and Palestinian president — if the Palestinians approved it in a referendum.

Israel and the United States say they refuse to deal with Hamas as long as the Islamist movement does not recognize Israel’s right to exist and renounce violence.

But Carter said Hamas, which won Palestinian parliamentary elections in 2006, had to be involved in any arrangements that could lead to peace.

"One of the reasons I wanted to come and meet with the Syrians and Hamas was to set an example that might be emulated by others… I know that there are some officials in the Israeli government that are quite willing to meet with Hamas and maybe that will happen in the near future," he added.

Carter’s talks in Cairo were with former Palestinian Foreign Minister Mahmoud al-Zahar and former Interior Minister Saeed Seyam, who did not speak to reporters.

Zahar and Seyam came to Cairo on Wednesday after the Israeli authorities refused to let Carter into Gaza from the Israeli side. Carter has already met a West Bank leader from Hamas and is expected to meet overall leader Khaled Meshaal in Damascus.

Earlier on Thursday, Carter met Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. No details were available from either side.

© 2008 Reuters





http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19770.htm

Zenn
2008-04-21 21:43:54

Our Reign Of Terror

In shocking testimonies that reveal abductions, beatings and torture, Israeli soldiers confess the horror they have visited on Hebron

By Donald Macintyre in Jerusalem



http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19773.htm

roy
2008-04-21 21:45:45

Re: Dorin P si megafonul

L-am vazut asta seara pe Carter la canalul 10 israelian declarand ca propunerile lui au fost respinse de Hamas si ca este dezamagit. am reprodus exact cuvintele lui.

Declaratzia Hamasului la care se refera Reuters este legata de tratativele pe care le poarta cu egiptenii si nu in urma discuztiilor cu Carter.

Carter le propusese o incetare unilaterala a focului pe o saptamana si l-au refuzat. Deasemenea le-a propus un anumit mechanism pentru schimbul de prizonieri si deasemenea l-au refuzat.

Cand nu stii care este situatzia, nu te baga in chestiile astea. Politica in ME este foarte complicata si nu o data declaratziile au exact 15 minute de glorie dupa care se sterg in eternitate.
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La 2008-04-21 19:15:36, dorinP a scris:

>>
> De unde scoti domnule informatia asta? De la Megaphone?
>
> Uite stirea de la Reuters.
> http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSL2177218720080421
>
>