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2005-08-06
Dan Bostan din USA (...@yahoo.com, IP: 63.171.30...)
2005-08-06 01:30
Islamul fara cenzura

Discutie cu Imam Abu Bakr.

Puteti fi siguri ca asta se discuta in toate moscheile si familiile musulmane, pentru ca ASTA E EXACT CE SRIE IN CORAN:
Australian Broadcasting Corporation

TV PROGRAM TRANSCRIPT

LOCATION: http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2005/s1430601.htm

Broadcast: 04/08/2005


"...NICK McKENZIE: Isn't there a danger in you pushing that view that you will incite, you will encourage other people to attack Jews, attack Christians here in Australia?

ABU BAKR: No, this is your understanding, this is your understanding.

NICK McKENZIE: What is your understanding?

ABU BAKR: I am telling you that my religion doesn't tolerate other religion. It doesn't tolerate. The only one law which needs to spread - it can be here or anywhere else - has to be Islam.

NICK McKENZIE: Abu Bakr denies he's a member of the Salafist Group for Support and Combat, an Algerian-based organisation linked to al-Qaeda and banned in Australia but he freely admits he supports its aims. What do you think of Osama bin Laden?

ABU BAKR: Osama bin Laden - he's a great man. Osama bin Laden was a great man before 11 September which they said he did it and until now, nobody knows who did it.

ABU BAKR: And while Abu Bakr says he teaches his students that it's forbidden to hurt innocent people, a small number have attended terrorist training camps in central Asia. He stresses the decision was their own. Isn't it important that you say to them, "You shouldn't go and engage in violence." "You shouldn't go and train"?

ABU BAKR: If I do this, it means I am betraying my religion.

NICK McKENZIE: But don't you think Australian Muslims, Muslims living in Australia also have a responsibility to adhere to Australian law? To not fight, for instance, if they do go to Iraq to not fight against Australian troops, to make sure they follow the laws of this country?

ABU BAKR: This is big problem. There are two laws, there is an Australian law, there is an Islamic law.

SHEIKH FEHMI NAJI EL-IMAM, BOARD OF IMAMS, VICTORIA: I mean if somebody want to coordinate and operate with bin Laden, let him do that over there. We do not want things like that over here because it is not going to do us justice, it is not going to do us good at all, it's not going to do us harmony, which we are seeking to have harmony between ourselves and between the community we're living with.

NICK McKENZIE: Sheikh Fehmi Imam at Melbourne's Preston mosque is regularly called upon to provide a measured response to controversial utterances.

SHEIKH FEHMI NAJI EL-IMAM, BOARD OF IMAMS, VICTORIA: Talk is easy and cheap. We don't want talk to be developed into action. That's why such talk sometimes grows into the mind of the people - it might develop to action and that's where the danger is.

NICK McKENZIE: What do you say to people who say to you "If you choose to live in Australia, you should abide and respect by Australian laws which expressly say that we have to let other people of religions live side-by-side, respect them and not to express anything bad or hate against them"?

ABU BAKR: 100 per cent? This is very bad. This is very bad.

NICK McKENZIE: Earlier this week former ASIO officer Michael Roach said there were about 60 terrorism suspects being monitored in Australia. AFP boss Mick Keelty confirmed the figure is close to that. But the question remains, where does that place Abu Bakr?

ABU BAKR: According to my religion, jihad is a part of my religion and what you have to understand that anyone who fights for the sake of Allah, the first when he dies, the first drop of blood that comes from him out, all his sin will be forgiven."


Oriana din Italia (...@hotmail.it, IP: 213.140.17...)
2005-08-06 02:10
Re: Abu Bakr si tot ce se invartea in jurul lui, KAPUT

E uficial: instigatorul asta DEZECHILIBRAT MINTAL declarat ilegal in Anglia, inchis conturi, asociatii, si daca nu-si vede de treaba, un sut de unde a venit.


Serp i Molot (...@fsmail.net, IP: 148.244.150...)
2005-08-06 02:27
Re: Islamul fara cenzura

La 2005-08-06 01:30:55, Dan Bostan a scris:

> Discutie cu Imam Abu Bakr.
> 
> Puteti fi siguri ca asta se discuta in toate moscheile si familiile
> musulmane, pentru ca ASTA E EXACT CE SRIE IN CORAN:
> Australian Broadcasting Corporation
> 
> TV PROGRAM TRANSCRIPT

==================

AUSTRALIA E O TARA DE OCUPATIE IN IRAK , DECI NU E RELEVANT ASA ZISUL TRANSCRIPT , CARE MAI DEGRABA FACE PARTE DINTR-O CAMPANIE DE PROPAGANDA & DEZINFORMARE

Serp i Molot (...@fsmail.net, IP: 148.244.150...)
2005-08-06 02:44
Re: Abu Bakr si tot ce se invartea in jurul lui, KAPUT

La 2005-08-06 02:10:14, Oriana a scris:

> E uficial: instigatorul asta DEZECHILIBRAT MINTAL declarat ilegal in
> Anglia, inchis conturi, asociatii, si daca nu-si vede de treaba, un
> sut de unde a venit.



" OFICIAL" nu "uficial" AGRAMAT-O !!!!!!!!!
SCRIE O FRAZA CORECTA DIN PUNCT DE VEDERE MORFOLOGIC , DACA ESTI CAPABIL(A).

Oriana din Italia (...@hotmail.it, IP: 213.140.17...)
2005-08-06 02:52
Re: Al serp ibn Molot

esti exasperant de... ai noroc de cenzura


La 2005-08-06 02:27:37, Serp i Molot a scris:


> 
> ==================
> 
> AUSTRALIA E O TARA DE OCUPATIE IN IRAK , DECI NU E RELEVANT ASA ZISUL
> TRANSCRIPT , CARE MAI DEGRABA FACE PARTE DINTR-O CAMPANIE DE
> PROPAGANDA & DEZINFORMARE

Oriana din Italia (...@hotmail.it, IP: 213.140.17...)
2005-08-06 02:55
Re: Abu Bakr si tot ce se invartea in jurul lui, KAPUT

mai, Abu serp al....... stai in banca ta, ca te vad din postari ca nu esti intreg la cap, nu te mai da tu profesor ambulant, ca nu e cazul, hai capito?


La 2005-08-06 02:44:06, Serp i Molot a scris:

> La 2005-08-06 02:10:14, Oriana a scris:
> 
> > E uficial: instigatorul asta DEZECHILIBRAT MINTAL declarat ilegal in
> > Anglia, inchis conturi, asociatii, si daca nu-si vede de treaba, un
> > sut de unde a venit.
> 
> 
> 
> " OFICIAL" nu "uficial" AGRAMAT-O !!!!!!!!!
> SCRIE O FRAZA CORECTA DIN PUNCT DE VEDERE MORFOLOGIC , DACA ESTI
> CAPABIL(A).
> 
> 

akimote din MuyotoCity (...@msn.com, IP: 24.37.126...)
2005-08-06 02:58
Re: Al serp ibn Molot

Cucuveaua mea mirata.... tu ai fost topometra la viata ta luuuuuunga ?


La 2005-08-06 02:52:51, Oriana a scris:

> esti exasperant de... ai noroc de cenzura
> 
> 
> La 2005-08-06 02:27:37, Serp i Molot a scris:
> 
> 
> > 
> > ==================
> > 
> > AUSTRALIA E O TARA DE OCUPATIE IN IRAK , DECI NU E RELEVANT ASA ZISUL
> > TRANSCRIPT , CARE MAI DEGRABA FACE PARTE DINTR-O CAMPANIE DE
> > PROPAGANDA & DEZINFORMARE
> 
> 
> 

Serp i Molot (...@fsmail.net, IP: 148.244.150...)
2005-08-06 03:03
Re: Al serp ibn Molot

La 2005-08-06 02:58:53, akimote a scris:

> Cucuveaua mea mirata.... tu ai fost topometra la viata ta luuuuuunga


he-he-he!!!:))) ... e "pasare" de noapte , Oriana asta...

Oriana din Italia (...@hotmail.it, IP: 213.140.17...)
2005-08-06 03:08
Re: iaca a aparut askimodia antipatica, ce perle mai scoti ineseara?

La 2005-08-06 02:58:53, akimote a scris:

> Cucuveaua mea mirata.... tu ai fost topometra la viata ta luuuuuunga
> ?

topometra? nu dragutzule, import export si inca mai am mult pina la viata luuuuunga la care te referi.

Eugen din Texas din Dallas (...@comcast.net, IP: 67.187.108...)
2005-08-07 06:39
Re: Abu Bakr si tot ce se invartea in jurul lui, KAPUT

La 2005-08-06 02:44:06, Serp i Molot a scris:

> La 2005-08-06 02:10:14, Oriana a scris:
> 
> > E uficial: instigatorul asta DEZECHILIBRAT MINTAL declarat ilegal in
> > Anglia, inchis conturi, asociatii, si daca nu-si vede de treaba, un
> > sut de unde a venit.
> 
> " OFICIAL" nu "uficial" AGRAMAT-O !!!!!!!!!
> SCRIE O FRAZA CORECTA DIN PUNCT DE VEDERE MORFOLOGIC , DACA ESTI CAPABIL(A).
> 
Eugen din Texas, scrie :
Ea a scris corect. Doar ca tu nu ai vazut piesa "Take, Yanke si Cadir" ca ai fi stiut dece a scris "uficial" si nu "oficial"....


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