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2004-12-31
tjmaxxi (...@mymaxxi.com, IP: 205.188.116...)
2004-12-31 08:15
You mean "in Parliament"- no need for indefinite article!Si, stimate Moderator 2 Ziua,

I deeply and honestly regret to have to disappoint you, but I am quite prepared and more than qualified to successfully argue with anyone at the BBC! Incredible, isn't it?
It's the Serbs, not Serbian, always has, always will be, whether you and your newspaper like it or not!
As a general rule, never underestimate your readers,never assume you know who you're talking to/ about! You may be in for a few unpleasant surprises...it's not gonna feel too good! And the next time you're itching to prove me wrong on the English maze, try and do a little bit better than quoting some silly piece of news , even if it comes from the BBC
( incidentally, did you know that journalists are considered some of the lousiest writers in the English speaking world ?)

P.S. When absolutely bored , try to figure the answer to this question: who really owns the English language ?? It's an academic , New Age-ist question, you can check it out ...even with the BBC!!

Michael Morrell (...@yahoo.com, IP: 137.99.37...)
2004-12-31 18:09
Re: You mean "in Parliament"- no need for indefinite article!Si, stimate Moderator 2 Ziua,

While I cannot defend all of the choices of translation that appear on this web site, in this case I'm afraid you are incorrect. Both "Serbs" and "Serbians" are proper forms to use in referring to inhabitants of Serbia, at least according to the Oxford English Dictionary online edition.

See: http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/50220348?single=1&query_type=word&queryword=serbian&first=1&max_to_show=10

La 2004-12-31 08:15:54, tjmaxxi a scris:

> I deeply and honestly regret to have to disappoint you, but I am
> quite prepared and more than qualified to successfully argue with
> anyone at the BBC! Incredible, isn't it?
> It's the Serbs, not Serbian, always has, always will be, whether you
> and your newspaper like it or not!
> As a general rule, never underestimate your readers,never assume you
> know who you're talking to/ about! You may be in for a few
> unpleasant surprises...it's not gonna feel too good! And the next
> time you're itching to prove me wrong on the English maze, try and do
> a little bit better than quoting some silly piece of news , even if
> it comes from the BBC
> ( incidentally, did you know that journalists are considered some of
> the lousiest writers in the English speaking world ?)
>
> P.S. When absolutely bored , try to figure the answer to this
> question: who really owns the English language ?? It's an academic ,
> New Age-ist question, you can check it out ...even with the BBC!!
>
>

tjmaxxi (, IP: 205.188.116...)
2005-01-01 01:35
Re: Serbians. Thank you, but since I personally have no access to the online edition, I will have to just take your word

for it and ,therefore, extend my sincere apologies to everyone involved.
I'll be terribly pleased ,as well as tremendously curios to ask around , if only to figure out how totally off one can be when it comes to elementary principles of second language acquisition ( with possible minor consequences for essay writing ...)!
Until that 's sorted out in a manner that (at least to me) is satisfactory , with your permission, BBC or not/ Oxford English or not, I will absolutely stand by my initial objection and suggestion that Serbs ( much like the Croats/Slovenes) should be the desired ,everyday term ( dare I say authentic?)used to refer to the "inhabitants of Serbia".
With best regards.



La 2004-12-31 18:09:12, Michael Morrell a scris:

tjmaxxi (...@mymaxxi.com, IP: 205.188.116...)
2005-01-01 02:31
Quick question, Michael Morrell.....ins't, according to same Oxford English online edition," the Web "a proper name...

...and, hence, shouldn't capital letters be used when recommending a particular " web site"....?
Or are we talking webs in general?Or....?
Just wondering.......


P.S. Could the now famous "Moderatori" kindly post all my messages
( yes, you've missed a couple, though I'm sure it was totally unintentional!)

La 2004-12-31 18:09:12, Michael Morrell a scris:

> While I cannot defend all of the choices of translation that appear on
> this web site, in this case I'm afraid you are incorrect. Both
> "Serbs" and "Serbians" are proper forms to use in
> referring to inhabitants of Serbia, at least according to the Oxford
> English Dictionary online edition.
> 
> See:
> http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/50220348?single=1&query_type=word&queryword=serbian&first=1&max_to_show=10
> 
> La 2004-12-31 08:15:54, tjmaxxi a scris:
> 
> > I deeply and honestly regret to have to disappoint you, but I am
> > quite prepared and more than qualified to successfully argue with
> > anyone at the BBC! Incredible, isn't it?
> > It's the Serbs, not Serbian, always has, always will be, whether you
> > and your newspaper like it or not!
> > As a general rule, never underestimate your readers,never assume you
> > know who you're talking to/ about! You may be in for a few
> > unpleasant surprises...it's not gonna feel too good! And the next
> > time you're itching to prove me wrong on the English maze, try and do
> > a little bit better than quoting some silly piece of news , even if
> > it comes from the BBC
> > ( incidentally, did you know that journalists are considered some of
> > the lousiest writers in the English speaking world ?)
> >
> > P.S. When absolutely bored , try to figure the answer to this
> > question: who really owns the English language ?? It's an academic ,
> > New Age-ist question, you can check it out ...even with the BBC!!
> >
> >
> 
> 

Mos Grigore din Chicago (...@worldnet.att.net, IP: 209.247.222...)
2005-01-01 20:00
Nu cotest engleza ta, Mielule, dar ti-a lunecat picioru' la lungimea frazei (ca pe romaneste)!

La 2005-01-01 01:35:19, tjmaxxi a scris:

> for it and ,therefore, extend my sincere apologies to everyone
> involved.
> I'll be terribly pleased ,as well as tremendously curios to ask
> around , if only to figure out how totally off one can be when it
> comes to elementary principles of second language acquisition ( with
> possible minor consequences for essay writing ...)!
> Until that 's sorted out in a manner that (at least to me) is
> satisfactory , with your permission, BBC or not/ Oxford English or
> not, I will absolutely stand by my initial objection and suggestion
> that Serbs ( much like the Croats/Slovenes) should be the desired
> ,everyday term ( dare I say authentic?)used to refer to the
> "inhabitants of Serbia".
> With best regards.
> 
> 
> 
> La 2004-12-31 18:09:12, Michael Morrell a scris:
> 
> 
> 

Michael Morrell (...@yahoo.com, IP: 69.182.43...)
2005-01-03 05:31
Re: Quick question, Michael Morrell.....ins't, according to same Oxford English online edition," the Web "a proper name.

You raise an interesting question, but according to the OED online, the use of lower case for the word "web site" is not inappropriate (see entry below). I'm glad you raised the question, though, as I had never investigated this before. Thank you.

"Originally written with a capital initial, web compounds are now increasingly written with a lower-case w. Since it is difficult to make an objective judgement about the dominant capitalization in particular cases and the evidence is changing too rapidly for such a judgement to be of any lasting value to the reader, the compounds below have been routinely presented with a lower case w irrespective of the quotation evidence....Those compounds in which web is combined with a word occurring independently as a common noun are most frequently written as two words (web page, web site)."



La 2005-01-01 02:31:31, tjmaxxi a scris:

> ...and, hence, shouldn't capital letters be used when recommending a
> particular " web site"....?
> Or are we talking webs in general?Or....?
> Just wondering.......
>
>
> P.S. Could the now famous "Moderatori" kindly post all my
> messages
> ( yes, you've missed a couple, though I'm sure it was totally
> unintentional!)
>
> La 2004-12-31 18:09:12, Michael Morrell a scris:
>
> > While I cannot defend all of the choices of translation that appear on
> > this web site, in this case I'm afraid you are incorrect. Both
> > "Serbs" and "Serbians" are proper forms to use in
> > referring to inhabitants of Serbia, at least according to the Oxford
> > English Dictionary online edition.
> >
> > See:
> > http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/50220348?single=1&query_type=word&queryword=serbian&first=1&max_to_show=10
> >
> > La 2004-12-31 08:15:54, tjmaxxi a scris:
> >
> > > I deeply and honestly regret to have to disappoint you, but I am
> > > quite prepared and more than qualified to successfully argue with
> > > anyone at the BBC! Incredible, isn't it?
> > > It's the Serbs, not Serbian, always has, always will be, whether you
> > > and your newspaper like it or not!
> > > As a general rule, never underestimate your readers,never assume you
> > > know who you're talking to/ about! You may be in for a few
> > > unpleasant surprises...it's not gonna feel too good! And the next
> > > time you're itching to prove me wrong on the English maze, try and do
> > > a little bit better than quoting some silly piece of news , even if
> > > it comes from the BBC
> > > ( incidentally, did you know that journalists are considered some of
> > > the lousiest writers in the English speaking world ?)
> > >
> > > P.S. When absolutely bored , try to figure the answer to this
> > > question: who really owns the English language ?? It's an academic ,
> > > New Age-ist question, you can check it out ...even with the BBC!!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


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