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^spock^
2006-10-05 22:02:58

Re: Transilvania si mongolii (2)

La 2006-10-05 04:38:50, Alex Anderson a scris:

> ps: "spock " verifica bibliografia de mai sus inainte sa
> comentezi destul de necivilizat parerea unei persoane pe care nu o
> cunosti. Se pare ca de fapt d-ta ai studiat numai istoria stalinista
> depre poporul roman care de ce sa nu recunosc este favorabila unora
> ca d-ta. Cred ca este timpul sa cauti o sursa istorica alternativa de
> informare despre poporul in mijlocul caruia traiesti. Wikipendia
> dumi-tale este o sursa de informare care se adreseaza in general
> celor care n-au prea multa cultura. Oricum iti multumesc pentru
> atentia acordata acum doua zile.. Alex
>
"Regarding the area of Bihor:

Gesta hungarorum says:
....The lands between the Tisa and the forest towards Transylvania and from the Mures river to the Somes river was occupied by Duke Morout, whose grandson was called Men-Marot by the Hungarians. The lands were inhabited by people called Khozar. The Hungarian leader Arpad, sends messengers to Bihar and asks Menumorout to cede the territory between the Somes river and Mezes mountains. Menumorout refuses, referring to his lord the Byzantium Emperor. After three days of siege at Sotmar (now Szatmar = Satu Mare) the castle is taken. The story is told once again, but this time Menumorurt who had earlier declined "with a Bulgarian heart" now gives the lands and his daughter.....

Regarding the area of Banat:
Gesta hungarorum says:
....The lands between the Mures river and the castle of Orsova was occupied by Duke Glad, who came from the castle of Vidin. His descendent was Ahtum, who later in the time of King Stephen was killed by Csanad, the son of Bobuka. The Hungarians sent an army against Duke Glad and subdued the population between the Mures and Temes rivers. When they tried to pass the Temes river Glad came against them with a great army including Cuman, Bulgarian and Vlach support. On the following day the Hungarians defeated the enemy......

Regarding the area of Transylvania:
Gesta hungarorum says:
....Teteny, the father of Horka, found out from the inhabitants about the territory beyond the forest, where some Vlach Gelu ruled.....and the territory beyond the forrest was held by the decedents of Teteny until the time of Stephen, and would have continued to be if Gyula and his sons Bolya and Bonyha had been willing to adopt Christianity and not act against the king. Teteny sent a spy beyond the forrest and he reported that it was rich in salt, gold and many good rivers. The inhabitants of that country were the most unworthy in the world because they were Vlachs and Slavs. A fierce battle started, in which the soldiers of Gelu were defeated. ... Gelu was pursued by warriors of Teteny and killed. When the inhabitants of the country saw the death of their lord, they wanted to make peace and chose Teteny as their leader......"

Daca e sa dai crezare ad literam la tot ce scrie in cronica asta, atunci pot veni si bulgarii, sa zica e al lor Ardealul....

^spock^
2006-10-05 22:05:06

Re: Transilvania si mongolii (2)

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