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2006-12-18
Arcturus (...@gmail.com, IP: 24.86.218...)
2006-12-18 00:31
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ce este mai condamnabil, sa fii anti-semit sau sa fii anti-arab?

Daca alege-ti unul sau altul, sunteti ipocriti ...

Oriana din http://www.ziualibera.blogspot.com/ (...@hotmail.it, IP: 62.101.126...)
2006-12-18 02:23
intrebare ? Retorica ipocrita

Varianta cu cel care trancaneste, dar nu are bunul simt sa se documenteze, iaca pe asta n-ai considerat-o. Lasa lozincile si casca bine ochii, nimeni nu este anti arab, din senin, lumea este anti predicatori de ura si de asasini. Cum de nu-ti plange sufletu' imaculat... pt. fetisoara aceea de 18 ani ucisa ieri la Gaza ???

Asa ca, primul ipocrit esti tu !

La 2006-12-18 00:31:50, Arcturus a scris:

> ce este mai condamnabil, sa fii anti-semit sau sa fii anti-arab?
>
> Daca alege-ti unul sau altul, sunteti ipocriti ...
>

evreu mandru din israel din Israel (...@yahoo.com, IP: 84.108.10...)
2006-12-18 08:55
Re: raspuns: Dai dovada de ignoranta...

"in folosirea unor clisee/distorsionari care fac parte din recunoscutul arsenal al antisemitismului international. De exemplu: aberatia cu "antisemitismul" care cica ar trebui sa se refere si la arabi, ca si ei sint "semiti" si deci anti-semitismul trebuie necesarmente sa cuprinda toti semitii.

Ce spune dictionarul cel mai prestigios, Oxford? Ia sa vedem: "anti-semitism: Theory, action, or practice directed against the Jews. Hence anti-Semite, one who is hostile or opposed to the Jews". ASTA E TOT.

Ce spune Miriam Webster? "anti-semitism = hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group". ASTA E TOT.

Ce spune "A Dictionary of World History" - care iti explica si prostioara cu arabii? <<anti-Semitism = hostility towards and discrimination against JEWISH PEOPLE (although there are other Semitic peoples, notably the Arabs, anti-Semitism is *only used to refer to prejudice against Jewish people*). In the late 19th and early 20th centuries it was strongly evident in France, Germany, Poland, Russia, and elsewhere, many Jewish emigrants fleeing from persecution or POGROMS in south-east Europe to Britain and the USA. After World War I early Nazi propaganda in Germany encouraged anti-Semitism, alleging Jewish responsibility for the nation's defeat. By 1933 Jewish persecution was active throughout the country. The final solution which Hitler worked for was to be a HOLOCAUST or extermination of the entire Jewish race; some six million Jews were killed in CONCENTRATION CAMPS before the defeat of Nazism in 1945. Anti-Semitism was a strong feature of society within the former Soviet Union, especially after World War II. Anti-Semitism remains a problem in eastern Europe and in the former Soviet republics, although Jewish people are now allowed to emigrate from these countries. During the early 1990s in western Europe, especially in France and Germany, there was an increase in racist violence by neo-Nazi groups.>>

Ce iti spune A Dictionary of Contemporary World History ?

<<anti-Semitism Whilst Christian hostility towards Jews dates back to the first century, modern anti-Semitism denotes hostility towards the Jewish race or, more popularly, towards Jewish culture and traditions. Its origins go back to the 1870s, when earlier, sporadic outbreaks of anti-Jewish feelings became a permanent phenomenon in European society. In the writings of early anti-Semites, such as the German Wilhelm Marr or the Frenchman Ernest Renan, Jews were identified as a separate race, so that even if they converted to Christianity or assimilated to current cultural values they continued to be considered Jewish. Throughout history, Jews had been made the scapegoats for economic and other misfortunes, but in addition they became identified by conservative populists as the harbingers of progress, industrialization, and international capital, who destroyed the values and livelihoods of an idealized rural peasant society.>>



Acum sa va explic si de ce cuvintul are sensul pe care il are. (Stiu cum se face scoala in Romania, asa ca nu acuz pe nimeni ca si-a construit "cultura" din colectia almanahului Flacara si fituicile marxiste gratuite de pe internet.)

La data inventarii cuvintului (Germania, relativ tirziu in a doua jumatate a secolului XIX - prima referinta existenta dateaza din 1860), cuvintul reprezenta un eufemism, o perifraza ceva mai edulcorata, care sa reprezinte sensul de "ura impotriva evreilor", dar fara sa o spuna atit de violent. De asemenea termenul era o replica adresata conceptului de superioritate al rasei ariene, precum evidentiat in scrierile lui Ernest Renan. Pentru ca evreii erau singura populatie semitica cu oaresce pondere in Europa centrala si datorita popularitatii crescinde a dihotomiei proto-naziste "semit versus arian", cuvintul favorizat a folosit radacina "semit" ca un eufemism pentru "evreu". Nicind, nici atunci sau macar si decenii mai tirziu, s-a gindit cineva dintre cei care au folosit termenul la arabi, intr-un fel sau in altul.

Cuvintele au un sens dat de etimologia lor intentionata, de originea lor istorica si de uzajul lor, nu de literalismul cel mai grosier si mai rau intentionat."

Acest text a fost preluat dintr-o postare a lui Faramita Lambru din iulie 2006.


La 2006-12-18 00:31:50, Arcturus a scris:
>
> > ce este mai condamnabil, sa fii anti-semit sau sa fii anti-arab?
> >
> > Daca alege-ti unul sau altul, sunteti ipocriti ...


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