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Chiar in anii '50 se vorbea (neoficial) de bomba atomica israliana si chiar se preciza de uzinele subterane din Neghev. Am imbatranit cu informatia asta de abecedar. Totodata Israelul a pastrat o tacere oficiala mormantala.Lesne de inteles. Un stat mic cu vecini periculosi si de loc prietenosi nu putea proceda altcum. Acum Gates...a vorbit gura fara el.De...SI? Vor urma "pardon scuzati, m-am gandit la altceva" etc si totul va reveni la normal. Sa nu facem din tantar armasar. Dar daca totul e calculat...cutia Pandorei e deschisa.

Dar atunci de ce nu vine IAEA peste ei, sa-i ia la inspectii, cum au facut cu Irakul - care, culmea, n-avea nici macar program nuclear in faza incipienta? De ce nu se ducea nea Baradei la Ierusalim, sa-i ia la intrebari, sa ceara scotociri in desert, etc? De ce regulile se aplica doar la unii?
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Raspuns: Pentru ca Israelul nu este membra in IAEA.

Cei care sant membrii (ca Iranul) au anumite drepturi dar si obligatzii. Iranul s-a folosit de drepturi si incearca sa se sustraga de la obligatzii.
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La 2006-12-09 02:25:16, Agentura a scris:

> Dar atunci de ce nu vine IAEA peste ei, sa-i ia la inspectii, cum au
> facut cu Irakul - care, culmea, n-avea nici macar program nuclear in
> faza incipienta? De ce nu se ducea nea Baradei la Ierusalim, sa-i ia
> la intrebari, sa ceara scotociri in desert, etc? De ce regulile se
> aplica doar la unii?
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Da Coreea de Nord e membra in IAEA? Sigur, nici pe coreeni nu-i inspecteaza nimeni, dar sunt si complet izolati.
Si apoi, din IAEA te poti (teoretic) retrage in orice moment.

Sorry, am gresit, Israelul este membra in IAEA insa nu este semnatara a NTP (Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty) si deci nu poate fi controlata de IAEA, conform conditziilor tratatului.

Acelasi status il au India, Pakistanul si Coreea de Nord care nici ele nu au semnat deci nu pot fi controlate.

Semnatarii NTP au anumite drepturi pe care statele nesemnatare nu le au (de exemplu sa faca comertz cu uraniu, centrifuge, etc). Iranul a semnat tratatul si s-a folosit de drepturile pe care i le confera semnatura deci trebuie sa se supuna controalelor, altfel isi incalca semnatura.

Coreea de Nord a semnat un tratat cu USA in care s-a obligat sa nu dezvolte arme atomice. In schimb a primit alimente, petrol si alte bunuri. Si Korea de Nord si-a incalcat semnatura.
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La 2006-12-09 14:20:07, Agentura a scris:

> Da Coreea de Nord e membra in IAEA? Sigur, nici pe coreeni nu-i
> inspecteaza nimeni, dar sunt si complet izolati.
> Si apoi, din IAEA te poti (teoretic) retrage in orice moment.
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Semnatura si-au incalcat-o mai intai americanii, care le promisesera coreenilor ajutor economic substantial si construirea unor centrale energetice pe care nu le-au mai facut niciodata. Cand a venit Bush la Casa Alba, primul lucru a zis ca politica lui Clinton fata de North Korea e o prostie si s-a ales praful de acord. Coreenii se obligasera sa sisteze programul nuclear - care exista deja; daca au vazut ca nu primesc nimic si ca Bush se joaca de-a cowboy-ul, l-au reluat. Firesc, nu.

Nu este corect ce scrii.

Coreea de Nord nu si-a inceput programul nuclear ca urmare a suspendarii tratatului de catre americani, ci a continuat programul in timpul tratatului, desi semnase ca renuntza.

Coreeni au primit tot ce s-a stabilit in acord. Insa in Octombrie 2002, USA avand indicatzii ca Coreeni au inselat-o, i-a luat la intrebari. Coreeni au recunoscut ca au continuat programul lor atomic, SUA a declarat incetarea acordului.

Iata cum au decurs evenimentele in 2002 (sursa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction)

7 August: "First Concrete" pouring at the construction site of the light-water nuclear power plants being built by the Korean Peninsula Energy Development Organization under the 1994 Agreed Framework. Construction of both reactors was many years behind the agreement's target completion date of 2003.

3-5 October: On a visit to the North Korean capital Pyongyang, US Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly presses the North on suspicions that it is continuing to pursue a nuclear energy and missiles programme. Mr Kelly says he has evidence of a secret uranium-enriching programme carried out in defiance of the 1994 Agreed Framework. Under this deal, North Korea agreed to forsake nuclear ambitions in return for the construction of two safer light water nuclear power reactors and oil shipments from the US.

16 October: The US announces that North Korea admitted in their talks to a secret nuclear arms programme.

17 October: Initially the North appears conciliatory. Leader Kim Jong-il says he will allow international weapons inspectors to check that nuclear facilities are out of use.

20 October: North-South Korea talks in Pyongyang are undermined by the North's nuclear programme "admission". US Secretary of State Colin Powell says further US aid to North Korea is now in doubt. The North adopts a mercurial stance, at one moment defiantly defending its "right" to weapons development and at the next offering to halt nuclear programmes in return for aid and the signing of a "non-aggression" pact with the US. It argues that the US has not kept to its side of the Agreed Framework, as the construction of the light water reactors - due to be completed in 2003 - is now years behind schedule.

14 November: US President George W Bush declares November oil shipments to the North will be the last if the North does not agree to put a halt to its weapons ambitions.

18 November: Confusion clouds a statement by North Korea in which it initially appears to acknowledge having nuclear weapons. A key Korean phrase understood to mean the North does have nuclear weapons could have been mistaken for the phrase "entitled to have", Seoul says.

27 November: The North accuses the US of deliberately misinterpreting its contested statement, twisting an assertion of its "right" to possess weapons into an "admission" of possession.

4 December: The North rejects a call to open its nuclear facilities to inspection.

Clar, nu?
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La 2006-12-10 01:37:44, Agentura a scris:

> Semnatura si-au incalcat-o mai intai americanii, care le promisesera
> coreenilor ajutor economic substantial si construirea unor centrale
> energetice pe care nu le-au mai facut niciodata. Cand a venit Bush la
> Casa Alba, primul lucru a zis ca politica lui Clinton fata de North
> Korea e o prostie si s-a ales praful de acord. Coreenii se obligasera
> sa sisteze programul nuclear - care exista deja; daca au vazut ca nu
> primesc nimic si ca Bush se joaca de-a cowboy-ul, l-au reluat. Firesc,
> nu.
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