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Mos Grigore
2008-12-17 22:21:52

Ilenutza Tractorista se ingrashe din.....................

renuntzarile lui Bush...................................

Arcturus
2008-12-18 00:44:55

sa vina FMI-ul

sa ii oblige sa isi inchida "gaurile negre" din economie. Americanii sunt buni la dat din gura cand e vorba despre altii, dar nu isi aplica aceleasi criterii cand e vorba de propria ograda. Ipocrizie si standard dublu ...

Arcturus
2008-12-18 01:18:09

apropo ... cica Bush a adus democratie si civilitate in Irak

Bodyguarzi lu Bush si Maliki i-au rupt mana si coastele ... pentru ca a avut curajul sa arunce cu 2 papuci in capul criminalului.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/dec/16/bush-shoe-zaidi

Muntadhar al-Zaidi will go down in Arab folklore as the man who dared to throw his shoes at George Bush but his immediate problem is how to recover from the reprisals he suffered after his bold gesture. His older brother, Dargham, has told reporters Muntadhar suffered a broken hand, broken ribs and internal bleeding, as well as an eye injury, and is in hospital.

If true, the reports confirm what the TV clips shown on the Guardian's website in the aftermath of the incident seemed to suggest. A number of Western news reports referred to Zaidi as "screaming" while he was taken out of the press conference room. They gave the impression he was ranting at Bush. The soundtrack hinted otherwise. It contained a series of agonised yelps and grunts, as of a man being repeatedly kicked and thumped. By then, Zaidi was on the floor, and cameras could not catch him in the melee. But listen to the message of the microphones. It seems to tell a vicious tale.

Who was doing the punching, if that is what it was? Was it Iraqi security men or Bush's bodyguards from the US Secret Service? Either way, whatever brutality it is now alleged was meted out to Zaidi far outweighs the violence involved in his gesture. This will only serve to add to Zaidi's status, making him a martyr as well as a hero in large sections of the Arab world, where commentators have been vying with superlatives to describe his action.

Paul din Ohio
2008-12-18 01:39:36

Re: sa vina FMI-ul. Vezi ca e pe dos de cum crezi tu

FMI nu da bani Americii ci America contribuie cu bani multi la FMI.
La 2008-12-18 00:44:55, Arcturus a scris:

> sa ii oblige sa isi inchida "gaurile negre" din economie. Americanii
> sunt buni la dat din gura cand e vorba despre altii, dar nu isi
> aplica aceleasi criterii cand e vorba de propria ograda. Ipocrizie si
> standard dublu ...
>

Paul din Ohio
2008-12-18 01:54:48

Re: apropo ... cica Bush a adus democratie si civilitate in Irak. Asa au spus tovarasii tai

ieri, dar azi "ranitul" s-a prezentat la tribunal:

THE Iraqi journalist who became an instant media star for hurling his shoes at US President George W. Bush today appeared before a judge investigating the incident, his brother said.

Muntazer al-Zaidi, 29, a television reporter who relatives and colleagues said acted because he "detested" Mr Bush and America, was brought before the judge in the high-security Green Zone in the heart of Baghdad, the brother said.

Durgham al-Zaidi said he and another brother were told by the investigating judge that Muntazar had "cooperated well" but that they were unable to attend the hearing and had no further details.

Under Iraqi law, Mr Zaidi risks up to seven years in jail for "offending the head of a foreign state".

La 2008-12-18 01:18:09, Arcturus a scris:

> Bodyguarzi lu Bush si Maliki i-au rupt mana si coastele ... pentru ca
> a avut curajul sa arunce cu 2 papuci in capul criminalului.
>
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/dec/16/bush-shoe-zaidi
>
> Muntadhar al-Zaidi will go down in Arab folklore as the man who dared
> to throw his shoes at George Bush but his immediate problem is how to
> recover from the reprisals he suffered after his bold gesture. His
> older brother, Dargham, has told reporters Muntadhar suffered a
> broken hand, broken ribs and internal bleeding, as well as an eye
> injury, and is in hospital.
>
> If true, the reports confirm what the TV clips shown on the Guardian's
> website in the aftermath of the incident seemed to suggest. A number
> of Western news reports referred to Zaidi as "screaming" while he was
> taken out of the press conference room. They gave the impression he
> was ranting at Bush. The soundtrack hinted otherwise. It contained a
> series of agonised yelps and grunts, as of a man being repeatedly
> kicked and thumped. By then, Zaidi was on the floor, and cameras
> could not catch him in the melee. But listen to the message of the
> microphones. It seems to tell a vicious tale.
>
> Who was doing the punching, if that is what it was? Was it Iraqi
> security men or Bush's bodyguards from the US Secret Service? Either
> way, whatever brutality it is now alleged was meted out to Zaidi far
> outweighs the violence involved in his gesture. This will only serve
> to add to Zaidi's status, making him a martyr as well as a hero in
> large sections of the Arab world, where commentators have been vying
> with superlatives to describe his action.
>

Arcturus
2008-12-18 04:33:27

Re: si?

Cica 7 ani de inchisoare ... dar pe criminalii de la Blackwater au incercat sa-i faca scapati.


La 2008-12-18 01:54:48, Paul din Ohio a scris:

> ieri, dar azi "ranitul" s-a prezentat la tribunal:
>
> THE Iraqi journalist who became an instant media star for hurling his
> shoes at US President George W. Bush today appeared before a judge
> investigating the incident, his brother said.
>
> Muntazer al-Zaidi, 29, a television reporter who relatives and
> colleagues said acted because he "detested" Mr Bush and America, was
> brought before the judge in the high-security Green Zone in the heart
> of Baghdad, the brother said.
>
> Durgham al-Zaidi said he and another brother were told by the
> investigating judge that Muntazar had "cooperated well" but that they
> were unable to attend the hearing and had no further details.
>
> Under Iraqi law, Mr Zaidi risks up to seven years in jail for
> "offending the head of a foreign state".
>
> La 2008-12-18 01:18:09, Arcturus a scris:
>
> > Bodyguarzi lu Bush si Maliki i-au rupt mana si coastele ... pentru ca
> > a avut curajul sa arunce cu 2 papuci in capul criminalului.
> >
> >
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/dec/16/bush-shoe-zaidi
> >
> > Muntadhar al-Zaidi will go down in Arab folklore as the man who dared
> > to throw his shoes at George Bush but his immediate problem is how to
> > recover from the reprisals he suffered after his bold gesture. His
> > older brother, Dargham, has told reporters Muntadhar suffered a
> > broken hand, broken ribs and internal bleeding, as well as an eye
> > injury, and is in hospital.
> >
> > If true, the reports confirm what the TV clips shown on the Guardian's
> > website in the aftermath of the incident seemed to suggest. A number
> > of Western news reports referred to Zaidi as "screaming" while he was
> > taken out of the press conference room. They gave the impression he
> > was ranting at Bush. The soundtrack hinted otherwise. It contained a
> > series of agonised yelps and grunts, as of a man being repeatedly
> > kicked and thumped. By then, Zaidi was on the floor, and cameras
> > could not catch him in the melee. But listen to the message of the
> > microphones. It seems to tell a vicious tale.
> >
> > Who was doing the punching, if that is what it was? Was it Iraqi
> > security men or Bush's bodyguards from the US Secret Service? Either
> > way, whatever brutality it is now alleged was meted out to Zaidi far
> > outweighs the violence involved in his gesture. This will only serve
> > to add to Zaidi's status, making him a martyr as well as a hero in
> > large sections of the Arab world, where commentators have been vying
> > with superlatives to describe his action.
> >
>
>

Paul din Ohio
2008-12-18 04:51:39

Re: si? Voi diversionistii

aveti "proprietatea" de a rasuci faptele, a le falsifica si a opera cu sofisme In sensul modern al acestui cuvant) ieftine. Succes in continuare! La 2008-12-18 04:33:27, Arcturus a scris:

> Cica 7 ani de inchisoare ... dar pe criminalii de la Blackwater au
> incercat sa-i faca scapati.
>
>
> La 2008-12-18 01:54:48, Paul din Ohio a scris:
>
> > ieri, dar azi "ranitul" s-a prezentat la tribunal:
> >
> > THE Iraqi journalist who became an instant media star for hurling his
> > shoes at US President George W. Bush today appeared before a judge
> > investigating the incident, his brother said.
> >
> > Muntazer al-Zaidi, 29, a television reporter who relatives and
> > colleagues said acted because he "detested" Mr Bush and America, was
> > brought before the judge in the high-security Green Zone in the heart
> > of Baghdad, the brother said.
> >
> > Durgham al-Zaidi said he and another brother were told by the
> > investigating judge that Muntazar had "cooperated well" but that they
> > were unable to attend the hearing and had no further details.
> >
> > Under Iraqi law, Mr Zaidi risks up to seven years in jail for
> > "offending the head of a foreign state".
> >
> > La 2008-12-18 01:18:09, Arcturus a scris:
> >
> > > Bodyguarzi lu Bush si Maliki i-au rupt mana si coastele ... pentru ca
> > > a avut curajul sa arunce cu 2 papuci in capul criminalului.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/dec/16/bush-shoe-zaidi
> > >
> > > Muntadhar al-Zaidi will go down in Arab folklore as the man who dared
> > > to throw his shoes at George Bush but his immediate problem is how to
> > > recover from the reprisals he suffered after his bold gesture. His
> > > older brother, Dargham, has told reporters Muntadhar suffered a
> > > broken hand, broken ribs and internal bleeding, as well as an eye
> > > injury, and is in hospital.
> > >
> > > If true, the reports confirm what the TV clips shown on the Guardian's
> > > website in the aftermath of the incident seemed to suggest. A number
> > > of Western news reports referred to Zaidi as "screaming" while he was
> > > taken out of the press conference room. They gave the impression he
> > > was ranting at Bush. The soundtrack hinted otherwise. It contained a
> > > series of agonised yelps and grunts, as of a man being repeatedly
> > > kicked and thumped. By then, Zaidi was on the floor, and cameras
> > > could not catch him in the melee. But listen to the message of the
> > > microphones. It seems to tell a vicious tale.
> > >
> > > Who was doing the punching, if that is what it was? Was it Iraqi
> > > security men or Bush's bodyguards from the US Secret Service? Either
> > > way, whatever brutality it is now alleged was meted out to Zaidi far
> > > outweighs the violence involved in his gesture. This will only serve
> > > to add to Zaidi's status, making him a martyr as well as a hero in
> > > large sections of the Arab world, where commentators have been vying
> > > with superlatives to describe his action.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

roy
2008-12-18 07:52:29

Re: sa vina FMI-ul. Vezi ca e pe dos de cum crezi tu

Ha, ha,ha... Eram cat pe ce sa-i raspund acelasi lucru...

Ce sa-i faci... Are saracul o minte de bibilica. Culmea este ca se simte tare intelighent.
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La 2008-12-18 01:39:36, Paul din Ohio a scris:

> FMI nu da bani Americii ci America contribuie cu bani multi la FMI.
>

emigrstul
2008-12-18 11:14:57

Acum toti tabara pe Bush.

Daca aruncam o privire in istorie, omenirea s-a miscat de multe ori ca un om beat din sant in sant mai ales in secolul 20. Nu a cautat sa gaseasca dreapta masura intre interventia maxima si interventia minima a statului.Iar dupa umila mea parere actuala criza are la baza si comportamentul unor indivizi iresponsabilli cu ,,ingineriile lor financiareINTERZISE DE LEGEiar justitia trebuie sa-si spuna cuvintul. Chiar daca paguba nu mai poate fi recuperata.Iar a incerca sa spargem toate oalele in capul lui Bush e o dovada de infantilism si contravine si principiilor fundamentale ale logicii.

BULA-NESCU
2008-12-18 12:01:04

Catre Paul din Ohaio

Esti gresit. America NU DA NICI UN BAN FONDULUI MONETAR INTERNATIONAL. AMERICA OFERA CREDITE PRETINZIND CA ARE BANI.
Credite inseamna DATORIE si America a dus aceasta politica de a oferi credite pretinzind care puterea de a le acoperi financiar. FMI s-a lasat dus de nas si bazat pe aceste credite care America a promis sa le acopere, a acordat la rindul ei ajutor altor tari numai ca sa vada ca ei insusi acum sint in datorii. ESte un efect domino care a inceput cu pretentiile Americane si care acum se rasfringe in restul lumii.

georgems
2008-12-18 12:31:27

Tufis primeste ce merita

Acu la final de mandat, macar atat, niste suturi la figurat, pentru ce a facut Americii si lumii intregi, din pacate e infinit de mica consolarea raportata la amploarea dezastrului.

cercetas
2008-12-18 12:38:18

Cimpanzeii arunca cu crengi iar ziaristii cu articole scrise. Deci "ziaristul" acela e mai cimpanzeu

Deci "ziaristul" acela e mai cimpanzeu decat ziarist

cercetas
2008-12-18 12:45:26

Sconcsii arunca cu dejectii de sub coada, deoarece nu au pantofi si nici legitimatii de ziaristi

cercetas
2008-12-18 12:48:37

CATRE TOTI ZIARISII CINSTITI !!! In semn de aprobare, de azi inainte veti purta numai un pantof

In semn de aprobare, de azi inainte veti purta numai un pantof, exceptie pt dame unul cu toc si unul fara toc, ca sa nu se duca firele la ciorapi

cercetas
2008-12-18 12:53:19

Pentru antiamericani: Vand .... UN PERECHE DE PAPUCI culoare steag profet si cu litere incarligate

Acesta, cel mai bine se foloseste atarnat in cui la poarta sau, ma rog, la usa care stai la bloc, ca sa stie lumea parerea dvs.

dorinP
2008-12-18 15:13:43

Re: Pentru antiamericani: Vand .... UN PERECHE DE PAPUCI culoare steag profet si cu litere incarligate

La 2008-12-18 12:53:19, cercetas a scris:

> Acesta, cel mai bine se foloseste atarnat in cui la poarta sau, ma
> rog, la usa care stai la bloc, ca sa stie lumea parerea dvs.
>

Nu-ti face probleme. Mesajul tau face deja picioare...

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=11207

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/12/bush-shoe-toss.html



Paul din Ohio
2008-12-18 16:22:49

Re: Catre Paul din Ohaio. Draga BULANOV

America a contribuit si contribuie cu bani la FMI. Bineinteles ca toate tarile care contribuie la FMI isi vor banii inapoi cu o oarecare dobanda. Tarile care accepta conditiile FMI pot avea astfel imprumuturi pe care nu le pot oferi alte banci. Aceste imprumuturi sunt riscante pentru creditor, adica anumite tari nu mai pot inapoia acesti bani sau platesc cu mare intarziere.

La 2008-12-18 12:01:04, BULA-NESCU a scris:

> Esti gresit. America NU DA NICI UN BAN FONDULUI MONETAR INTERNATIONAL.
> AMERICA OFERA CREDITE PRETINZIND CA ARE BANI.
> Credite inseamna DATORIE si America a dus aceasta politica de a oferi
> credite pretinzind care puterea de a le acoperi financiar. FMI s-a
> lasat dus de nas si bazat pe aceste credite care America a promis sa
> le acopere, a acordat la rindul ei ajutor altor tari numai ca sa vada
> ca ei insusi acum sint in datorii. ESte un efect domino care a inceput
> cu pretentiile Americane si care acum se rasfringe in restul lumii.
>


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