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Arcturus
2007-08-23 00:53:05

optiunea nucleara nu poate fi exclusa???

Atacurile preventive si viziunea militaristica a "cavalerului singuratic al dreptatii" a cam dat peste cap tot respectul pentru legile internationale. Se pare ca efortul depus de Bush pentru o solutie diplomatica este inexistent.

Dar dupa cum ziceam si ieri ... US s-a schimbat din 2002, cand a fost manipulata si prostita in a sustine un atac preventiv.

http://foxattacks.com/blog/10777-fox-attacks-iran

ml
2007-08-23 02:36:25

Bunker -buster

Aceste rachete au ogive nucleare si sunt facute sa detoneze la 20-30 m adancime. Iranienii pe de alta parte au la indemana tehnica militara ruseasca si chinezeasca pe langa productia proprie. De departe se remarca sunburn, rachete deplasandu-se la viteza Mach 2 si ca atare imposibil de evitat. Ceea ce-i roade insa pe americani cel mai tare este bursa petrolului in euro deschisa de Teheran cam acum un an prin care hegemonia dolarului in tranzactiile petroliere este serios amenintata, de aceea acum Iranul trebuie eliberat si democratizat.

Phil
2007-08-23 04:27:54

Re: optiunea nucleara nu poate fi exclusa???

La 2007-08-23 00:53:05, Arcturus a scris:

> Atacurile preventive si viziunea militaristica a "cavalerului
> singuratic al dreptatii" a cam dat peste cap tot respectul pentru
> legile internationale. Se pare ca efortul depus de Bush pentru o
> solutie diplomatica este inexistent.
> -------------------------------------

si care ar fi solutia aia diplomatica dupa parerea ta, ca aia ioropeana a lucrat perfect, nu a rezolvat nimic, nicaieri, niciodata. hai sa auzim, poate ajungi "diplomatic adviser" la Washington!


> Dar dupa cum ziceam si ieri ... US s-a schimbat din 2002, cand a fost
> manipulata si prostita in a sustine un atac preventiv.
>
> http://foxattacks.com/blog/10777-fox-attacks-iran
>

ionion
2007-08-23 06:59:37

Da da, pai uite aviatia groenlandeza a ocupat spatiul aerian al Kazahstanului si

inainteaza catre Togo.

filatelistu
2007-08-23 09:29:38

D'le Unteanu

Te implor, nu ne mai crede niste timpiti!!!!!
Articolul acesta a mai fost scris si a aparut atit in ZIUA cit si in suplimentul DOSARE SECRETE.
Lasa-te de analize geopolitice si militare ca nu te pricepi. Intelege ca IRANUL nu va fi atacat din foarte multe motive.
Eu voi itera doar citeva dintre acestea:
- este o tara cu 80 mil de locuitori;
- este o tara preponderent montana;
- are o dotare militara de exceptie;
- are o armata nationala foarte disciplinata si bine instruita;
- are relatii diplomatice si economice excelente atit cu UE (Franta+Germania) cit si Rusia , China si India;
- SUA s-a impotmolit bine in IRAQ;
- Anglia nu mai are interese in Iran;

fernando78
2007-08-23 13:15:14

americanii is infundati pina in git in irak

chair credeti ca mai au resurse si ca mai exista vointa politica sa se mai deschida inca un front si un conflict de lunga durata?

Dobos Menyhart
2007-08-23 14:23:00

O solutie mai din radacina

ar fi daca SUA din teama lui de a deveni o tinta a armelor nucleare si in primul rand a 'armelor murdare', care de fapt e 'un nuclear intr-un ghiozdan', ar trebui sa-si puna savantii ei la treaba sa gaseasca o solutie de detectare a acestora inca inainte de a intra intre granitele sale dar si celora aflate deja acolo. Nu cred ca asta ar fi imposibil, cu niste detectoare nucleare depuse dens in primul rand in locurile populate si cu reteaua telefonica moderna. Pe baza masurilor aduse pentru evitarea atacurilor gen 9/11 sint sigur ca asta va produce rezultatul dorit. E o incercare cam DonQuijoteasca sa lupte impotriva tuturor statelor din lumea arabo-muzulmana mai cu bani si capabili de a produce nucleare, in care se iveste o miscare anti-SUA, de altfel din ce in ce mai dens cum le ataca astia pe baza 'preventiva'. Si-a atins deja scopul de retaliare pentru 9/11, si si ceea mai tacuta de a avea mai mare control asupra reservelor de petrol din lume.

Tudor190
2007-08-23 16:21:53

Re: D'le Unteanu

Nu place sau nu gloata este usor manipulabila ca sa nu zic proasta. Aparent articol in van si slab pe deasupra dar functioneaza ca si picatura chinezeasca. Media poate face multe. Sa ne amintim de pilda mometele de dinaintea invadarii Irakului si de dupa cind mai mult de 50% dintre romani (90% americani) credeau in arme de distrugere in masa si in scopurile nobile ale invadarii.
Alt exemplu este Hezbollah ce este considerat ca si organizatie terorista; ce o fi aia. Toata lumea stie ca ei au pus la cale atentatul contra americanilor la Beirut si atentatele de le Buenos Aires.
In legatura ca ultimele: justitia argentiniana (atentie! nici pina acum nu s-a dat vre-un verdict oficial dar media a dat a doua zi) merge pe pista Mossad. Citiva procurori argentinieni au fost chemati unrgent in SUA ca sa li se arate calea.

Giuseppe Cocos
2007-08-23 16:36:31

Au aparut primul amerloc ....

Phil, care nu poate sa doarma de frica Iran-ului ....

Giuseppe Cocos
2007-08-23 16:39:51

Re: O solutie mai din radacina

Tocmai voiam sa ma iau de tine ....dar intimplator am aflat ca ai 87 de ani ! (si scrii pe internet!) Sa traiesti si sa fi sanatos, Nene Dobos !

Giuseppe,

La 2007-08-23 14:23:00, Dobos Menyhart a scris:

> ar fi daca SUA din teama lui de a deveni o tinta a armelor nucleare si
> in primul rand a 'armelor murdare', care de fapt e 'un nuclear intr-un
> ghiozdan', ar trebui sa-si puna savantii ei la treaba sa gaseasca o
> solutie de detectare a acestora inca inainte de a intra intre
> granitele sale dar si celora aflate deja acolo. Nu cred ca asta ar fi
> imposibil, cu niste detectoare nucleare depuse dens in primul rand in
> locurile populate si cu reteaua telefonica moderna. Pe baza masurilor
> aduse pentru evitarea atacurilor gen 9/11 sint sigur ca asta va
> produce rezultatul dorit. E o incercare cam DonQuijoteasca sa lupte
> impotriva tuturor statelor din lumea arabo-muzulmana mai cu bani si
> capabili de a produce nucleare, in care se iveste o miscare anti-SUA,
> de altfel din ce in ce mai dens cum le ataca astia pe baza
> 'preventiva'. Si-a atins deja scopul de retaliare pentru 9/11, si si
> ceea mai tacuta de a avea mai mare control asupra reservelor de petrol
> din lume.
>

cehow
2007-08-23 17:13:54

Bush vrea..

Bush vrea neaparat sa repete experienta"VIETNAM"..jalnic pt.marea natiune americana...

Zen
2007-08-23 17:16:04

Re: Au aparut primul amerloc ....

Ba, doarme. Cu abecedaru' sub cap. Cel mai bun somnifer...



La 2007-08-23 16:36:31, Giuseppe Cocos a scris:

> Phil, care nu poate sa doarma de frica Iran-ului ....
>

Zen
2007-08-23 17:19:23

News Brief: Iran develops 900kg 'smart bomb'

Iran seems to regularly announce the development or acquisition of new military technology. Now Teheran's Defence Ministry has announced that Iran has developed and deployed a new 900kg (2000 lbs) guided bomb

Iran develops 900kg 'smart bomb'

Reuters – Thursday August 23, 2007

Iran has developed a 900kg 'smart bomb', official media quoted a Defence Ministry statement as saying, in the latest announcement from Tehran about progress regarding military hardware.

The guided bomb, named Qased (Messenger), was developed by specialists within the ministry and is now operational, IRNA news agency said, adding it could be dropped from F-4 and F-5 jets.

Iran still uses planes, such as the F-5, supplied by the United States to the government of the former shah of Iran, who was a close US ally. Mohammad Reza Shah was ousted in the 1979 Islamic revolution, after which Washington cut ties with Tehran.

The two countries are embroiled in a deepening standoff over Iran's nuclear programme, which the West suspects is aimed at making atom bombs, a charge Iran denies.

Iran often says it has built new arms or upgraded weapons but rarely gives enough details for analysts to determine their capabilities. Although much of Iran's weaponry is outmoded, analysts say Iran has become proficient at modifying such arms.

Defence Minister Mostafa Mohammad Najjar said last year Iran had designed the Qased bomb but that it had yet to be tested. He said only a limited number of countries possessed the technology of 'smart and guided weaponry'.

The United States says it would prefer a diplomatic solution to the nuclear row, but has not ruled out military action. Iran has threatened to hit back at US regional interests if attacked.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/4175269a12.html

Zen
2007-08-23 18:05:19

Re: Bush vrea..

Pai..."experienta" asta a-nceput acu' 7 ani. Tu pe unde-ai fost?



La 2007-08-23 17:13:54, cehow a scris:

> Bush vrea neaparat sa repete experienta"VIETNAM"..jalnic pt.marea
> natiune americana...
>

Phil
2007-08-23 19:47:23

Re: Au aparut primul amerloc ....

La 2007-08-23 17:16:04, Zen a scris:

io-te tusea si junghiu', pai se putea? sinteti siamezi, n'asa?

> Ba, doarme. Cu abecedaru' sub cap. Cel mai bun somnifer...
>
>
>
> La 2007-08-23 16:36:31, Giuseppe Cocos a scris:
>
> > Phil, care nu poate sa doarma de frica Iran-ului ....
> >
>
>

Aladin
2007-08-23 19:55:10

Articol bazat pe date vechi de 2-5 ani !

Cum e aceia cu trupele de desant pregatite inca din 1979 ?
Ca grupul acela mic s-a cam ciocnit unii cu altii inainte de a putea "elibera ostatecii". Si ce varsta au acei tineri pregatiti ?
Orice e posibil chiar si PACEA !!
Ideia pacii ar trebui sa existe puternic in altarele catedralele ,moscheele si sinagogile lumii !! dar se pare in mod surprinzator ca au cam disparul de acolo.

ingineru
2007-08-23 19:55:34

Re: News Brief: Iran develops 900kg 'smart bomb'... o "smart bomb" iraniana...

... reprezinta un oximoron la fel de mare ca si un "smart Zen".
Ambele exista doar teoretic, si se pot manifesta doar intr-un spatiu virtual (adica pe net... :-)


La 2007-08-23 17:19:23, Zen a scris:

>
>
> Iran seems to regularly announce the development or acquisition of new
> military technology. Now Teheran's Defence Ministry has announced that
> Iran has developed and deployed a new 900kg (2000 lbs) guided bomb
>
> Iran develops 900kg 'smart bomb'
>
> Reuters – Thursday August 23, 2007
>
> Iran has developed a 900kg 'smart bomb', official media quoted a
> Defence Ministry statement as saying, in the latest announcement from
> Tehran about progress regarding military hardware.
>
> The guided bomb, named Qased (Messenger), was developed by specialists
> within the ministry and is now operational, IRNA news agency said,
> adding it could be dropped from F-4 and F-5 jets.
>
> Iran still uses planes, such as the F-5, supplied by the United States
> to the government of the former shah of Iran, who was a close US ally.
> Mohammad Reza Shah was ousted in the 1979 Islamic revolution, after
> which Washington cut ties with Tehran.
>
> The two countries are embroiled in a deepening standoff over Iran's
> nuclear programme, which the West suspects is aimed at making atom
> bombs, a charge Iran denies.
>
> Iran often says it has built new arms or upgraded weapons but rarely
> gives enough details for analysts to determine their capabilities.
> Although much of Iran's weaponry is outmoded, analysts say Iran has
> become proficient at modifying such arms.
>
> Defence Minister Mostafa Mohammad Najjar said last year Iran had
> designed the Qased bomb but that it had yet to be tested. He said only
> a limited number of countries possessed the technology of 'smart and
> guided weaponry'.
>
> The United States says it would prefer a diplomatic solution to the
> nuclear row, but has not ruled out military action. Iran has
> threatened to hit back at US regional interests if attacked.
>
>
> http://www.stuff.co.nz/4175269a12.html
>
>

alwis46
2007-08-23 21:30:18

Re: News Brief: Iran develops 900kg 'smart bomb'

Bomba iraniana inteligenta zici puiule ?
Mai sa fie !
Inteleg ca bomba asta stie sa recite Coranul in mers, face temenele cand trece peste Kaaba si cere din cand in cand sfatul lui Mahomed ca sa tina drumul oblu pana la tinta.
Ei da, atunci e bomba inteligenta !
Ce mandru trebuie sa fii de fratii tai .......

La 2007-08-23 17:19:23, Zen a scris:

>
>
> Iran seems to regularly announce the development or acquisition of new
> military technology. Now Teheran's Defence Ministry has announced that
> Iran has developed and deployed a new 900kg (2000 lbs) guided bomb
>
> Iran develops 900kg 'smart bomb'
>
> Reuters – Thursday August 23, 2007
>
> Iran has developed a 900kg 'smart bomb', official media quoted a
> Defence Ministry statement as saying, in the latest announcement from
> Tehran about progress regarding military hardware.
>
> The guided bomb, named Qased (Messenger), was developed by specialists
> within the ministry and is now operational, IRNA news agency said,
> adding it could be dropped from F-4 and F-5 jets.
>
> Iran still uses planes, such as the F-5, supplied by the United States
> to the government of the former shah of Iran, who was a close US ally.
> Mohammad Reza Shah was ousted in the 1979 Islamic revolution, after
> which Washington cut ties with Tehran.
>
> The two countries are embroiled in a deepening standoff over Iran's
> nuclear programme, which the West suspects is aimed at making atom
> bombs, a charge Iran denies.
>
> Iran often says it has built new arms or upgraded weapons but rarely
> gives enough details for analysts to determine their capabilities.
> Although much of Iran's weaponry is outmoded, analysts say Iran has
> become proficient at modifying such arms.
>
> Defence Minister Mostafa Mohammad Najjar said last year Iran had
> designed the Qased bomb but that it had yet to be tested. He said only
> a limited number of countries possessed the technology of 'smart and
> guided weaponry'.
>
> The United States says it would prefer a diplomatic solution to the
> nuclear row, but has not ruled out military action. Iran has
> threatened to hit back at US regional interests if attacked.
>
>
> http://www.stuff.co.nz/4175269a12.html
>
>